[sdiy] Zener issues (again)

[David G Dixon]

Hi Rutger,
 
Well, when I simulated my circuit with 5W zeners (1N5338) it behaved more or
less like the actual circuit, so I believe it is the power dissipation
rating.  For my application, the capacitance would really have to be through
the roof to affect things that much.
 
I need to quit screwing around and just order lower power zeners for all my
designs.
 
Cheers, Dave

  _____  

From: Rutger Vlek [mailto:rutgervlek at gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2020 10:25 AM
To: David G Dixon
Cc: Roman Sowa; synth-diy mailing list
Subject: Re: [sdiy] Zener issues (again)


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Could it have been a difference in the capacitance of the zeners? I recall
discussing zener capacitance with Ian Fritz as we both ran into it when
designing the saturation stage of a filter and had problems with HF tracking
of self-oscillation. 

Rutger

Op ma 30 nov. 2020 09:39 schreef David G Dixon <dixon at mail.ubc.ca>:


Well, it was the zeners.  I swapped the old ones in and the circuit worked
perfectly.  What a shit-show.

I think maybe I'll order some 1N5231s instead.  They are rated for half the
power dissipation, so they should all work, right?  Right?  Plus, Newark has
Vishay ones on sale for $0.03 apiece.



-----Original Message-----
From: Roman Sowa [mailto:modular at go2.pl] 
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2020 11:56 PM
To: David G Dixon; 'synth-diy mailing list'
Subject: Re: [sdiy] Zener issues (again)

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It's not the first time that you write here about counterfreight parts. 
Maybe you should consider changing regular parts source?
1W and 5W zener definitely need different package, so the mistake was made
on the die level. If it wasn't checked before packaging, it could have been
some small garage IC maker deep in China forest. Or rice field, China does
not have much forest I think.

Make one measurement - voltage at the test current shown in datasheet that
is 49mA for one and 240mA for the other diode. You'll know for sure.
BTW, when I searched for datasheets for them, it showed up about 20
different brands making those diodes, and I have never heard of any of them.
That sort of tells you what kind of reliability and repeatability to expect.

BTW2, instead of 5.1V zener you can use 5V R-R opamp for clipping trapezoids
and it will work much more precise, plus free buffering.

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