[sdiy] THAT2180A

[Tom Wiltshire]

Line segments is the approach that the THAT circuit uses, unless I’m misunderstanding it. Their VCA is expo, so that changes the line they’re trying to match to, but the approach is the same.

T.


> On 30 Nov 2020, at 01:41, David G Dixon <dixon at mail.ubc.ca> wrote:
> 
> The THAT circuit looked really complicated for making an equal power panner.
> I'd use a pair of linearized 2164 VCAs, and send them the sine and cosine of
> a control voltage ramp.  These I'd generate by setting up a 0V to +5V ramp
> and its inverse, and sending these through tri-2-sine converters, for which
> one could use either the transistor pair-diff amp combo or a 13700.
> Alternatively, one could fit the sine and cosine with line segments using
> diode-resistor networks a la Horowitz and Hill Figure 4-94.
> 
> What am I missing here?  Why is this so hard?
> 
> 
> 
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>> On 29 Nov 2020, at 04:54, drheqx <drheqx at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Thank you Tom. The DAC idea is really cool. It's true, performance will
> dictate performance. I can get away with less noise performance here but the
> linearity is important. Some of these pan circuits have a bump in the middle
> or a dip. I'll have to work that part out. This is something where a
> musician would certainly notice that bump. 
> 
> I did, and I'm no great musician.
> 
> On circuits with the bump the sound seems to get nearer as you pan it across
> the spectrum, like the sound moves along a straight line from left to right
> just in front of you, so the centre point is much closer than the far ends
> of the line. On other circuits, you get the opposite effect, where the
> centre dips and the signal seems to disappear into the distance, so it spins
> from by your left ear, to miles in front of you, round to by your right ear.
> Neither sounds "even". The ideal is something that gives a sound that seems
> to rotate around you with you at the centre, not moving closer or further
> away. The exact listening set-up obviously will affect how that illusion is
> to be created, but the aim is pretty clear.
> 
> 
> 
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