[sdiy] Marketplace Question

[David G Dixon]

Then it's dead, because it isn't worth a tenth of that.

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From: Synth-diy [mailto:synth-diy-bounces at synth-diy.org] On Behalf Of Jimmy
Moore
Sent: Friday, November 06, 2020 1:12 AM
To: Mark G
Cc: synth-diy at synth-diy.org
Subject: Re: [sdiy] Marketplace Question


[CAUTION: Non-UBC Email] 
The number suggested in a separate muffwigglers thread was $1 million for a
complete buy-out.

On Thu, Nov 5, 2020 at 11:18 AM Mark G via Synth-diy
<synth-diy at synth-diy.org> wrote:


Maybe we just figure out a way through gofundme or something similar to
raise enough money so that Bernie gets an immediate influx of cash plus
enough additional to pay someone else to do all the work so that he can
continue to sell copies. That way they stay available, Bernie makes some
money, he controls all the sales and process, he retains the rights to do
whatever he wants to in the future, someone else does the work. If it
doesn't work out at least people got a chance to purchase a copy again for a
period, and Bernie gets a chunk of upfront money. Plus hopefully it
generates additional interest in Electronotes so that there is a reasonable
sales stream for a period generating more money for Bernie. 





Mark



-----Original Message-----
From: BrightBoy <jdec at mindspring.com>
To: synth-diy at synth-diy.org
Sent: Thu, Nov 5, 2020 12:02 pm
Subject: Re: [sdiy] Marketplace Question


I should clarify that AES membership is around $200/year with the PRINTED
JOURNAL option.


It's cheaper if you are happy with PDF copies of the journal.


Jeff


-----Original Message-----

>From: BrightBoy <jdec at mindspring.com>

>Sent: Nov 5, 2020 11:54 AM

>To: SDIY <synth-diy at synth-diy.org>

>Subject: Re: [sdiy] Marketplace Question

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>I just had another idea in chatting with another SDIY member on FB.

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>Perhaps Bernie should donate the entire EN collection to the Audio
Engineering Society (AES)

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>I can't imagine them turning that away and would want to see it archived.

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>If you want access, you become an AES member (about $200/year)

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>Clearly they know how to scan and archive stuff as all their journals and

>conference proceedings are available for download.

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>All AES members have free access to their entire library.

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>And it furthers the organization.

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>A nice living legacy.

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>Jeff

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>-----Original Message-----

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>From: "Chromatest J. Pantsmaker" 

>Sent: Nov 5, 2020 11:36 AM

>To: Gordonjcp 

>Cc: SDIY 

>Subject: Re: [sdiy] Marketplace Question

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>I hate to say it, but when Bernard passes, somebody is going to make
digital copies and start selling them.  They're going to be low-quality,
even if they're high-quality scans.  A scanned-to-PDF document is never as
nice as a designed-for-PDF document.  Without somebody like Bernard being
emotionally involved enough to be doing the QC, the product isn't going to
be very good.  It likely won't be searchable, maybe there's a TOC, but it
won't link to the sections/pages.  The graphics will be sub-par.

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>Will people buy it?  It sounds like it.  Personally, I have no need or
desire for it, even if it were a 600MB collection of files.  I'm not the
target audience though.

>My point is this:  Somebody who already has a complete copy also has access
to a high-quality, hopper-fed scanner.  When they decide to scan it, they'll
have the entire thing scanned into PDFs in less than a week.  The files then
get uploaded to a for-pay file sharing site and it's done.  Bernard gets
nothing out of it, and everybody who wants a new copy gets one that will
never degrade, never get torn or water damaged (assuming proper backups).
It will be an inferior product, but they at least get the product.

>I'm not advocating for this to happen in any way (like I said, I don't even
want a copy).  I'm just being as realistic about the world as Bernard
appears to be.

>On Thu, Nov 5, 2020 at 4:57 AM Gordonjcp <gordonjcp at gjcp.net> wrote:

>On Thu, Nov 05, 2020 at 03:32:30AM +0000, Bernard Arthur Hutchins, Jr
wrote:

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>> Gordonjcp said:

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>> "There are literally people right here saying, "Say we can go ahead with
this and we will do it".  Right here."

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>> I must have missed the part where you explain who (NOT ME!!!) and how a
team of 100 is managed.  Herding Cats!  Back in 2017 I couldn't get even one
person here to proof read a 2-page scan as a test.

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>Why would you need as many as 100 people?

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>> Proposed group efforts have a warm-and-fuzzy "Kumbaya" aura to them.  In
general, it is folks standing around waiting for Mr. Somebody Should and for
a cue to take a bow.

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>You've heard of this "Linux" thing, right?

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>> Old saying on farms: "A boy can do a man's work, two boys working
together will do half a man's job, and three boys working together aren't
worth a damn.

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>Okay, so what do you actually want?

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>Are you happy enough with the status quo where people sell on the only
existing copies of Electronotes?

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>Do you want more people to read it?  Do you want it gone forever?  What
exactly are you shooting for here?

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>Given that it seems to be one of the most jealously hoarded collections of
documentation going, and I've never even seen what's in it, why would I
bother to fork out hard cash for a tatty old second- or third- or
fourth-hand copy?

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>Seriously, do you want help or not?

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>-- 

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>Gordonjcp

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