[sdiy] Marketplace Question

Fri Nov 6 10:31:01 CET 2020

FYI, this is the MW post:
https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=125405&p=3378388&hilit={B}#p3354371

On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 1:14 AM Jimmy Moore <jamoore84 at gmail.com> wrote:

> The number suggested in a separate muffwigglers thread was $1 million for
> a complete buy-out.
>
> On Thu, Nov 5, 2020 at 11:18 AM Mark G via Synth-diy <
> synth-diy at synth-diy.org> wrote:
>
>> Maybe we just figure out a way through gofundme or something similar to
>> raise enough money so that Bernie gets an immediate influx of cash plus
>> enough additional to pay someone else to do all the work so that he can
>> continue to sell copies. That way they stay available, Bernie makes some
>> money, he controls all the sales and process, he retains the rights to do
>> whatever he wants to in the future, someone else does the work. If it
>> doesn't work out at least people got a chance to purchase a copy again for
>> a period, and Bernie gets a chunk of upfront money. Plus hopefully it
>> generates additional interest in Electronotes so that there is a reasonable
>> sales stream for a period generating more money for Bernie.
>>
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BrightBoy <jdec at mindspring.com>
>> To: synth-diy at synth-diy.org
>> Sent: Thu, Nov 5, 2020 12:02 pm
>> Subject: Re: [sdiy] Marketplace Question
>>
>> I should clarify that AES membership is around $200/year with the PRINTED
>> JOURNAL option.
>>
>> It's cheaper if you are happy with PDF copies of the journal.
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> >From: BrightBoy <jdec at mindspring.com>
>> >Sent: Nov 5, 2020 11:54 AM
>> >To: SDIY <synth-diy at synth-diy.org>
>> >Subject: Re: [sdiy] Marketplace Question
>> >
>> >I just had another idea in chatting with another SDIY member on FB.
>> >
>> >Perhaps Bernie should donate the entire EN collection to the Audio
>> Engineering Society (AES)
>> >
>> >I can't imagine them turning that away and would want to see it archived.
>> >
>> >If you want access, you become an AES member (about $200/year)
>> >
>> >Clearly they know how to scan and archive stuff as all their journals and
>> >conference proceedings are available for download.
>> >
>> >All AES members have free access to their entire library.
>> >
>> >And it furthers the organization.
>> >
>> >A nice living legacy.
>> >
>> >Jeff
>> >
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >
>> >From: "Chromatest J. Pantsmaker"
>> >Sent: Nov 5, 2020 11:36 AM
>> >To: Gordonjcp
>> >Cc: SDIY
>> >Subject: Re: [sdiy] Marketplace Question
>> >
>> >I hate to say it, but when Bernard passes, somebody is going to make
>> digital copies and start selling them.  They're going to be low-quality,
>> even if they're high-quality scans.  A scanned-to-PDF document is never as
>> nice as a designed-for-PDF document.  Without somebody like Bernard being
>> emotionally involved enough to be doing the QC, the product isn't going to
>> be very good.  It likely won't be searchable, maybe there's a TOC, but it
>> won't link to the sections/pages.  The graphics will be sub-par.
>> >
>> >Will people buy it?  It sounds like it.  Personally, I have no need or
>> desire for it, even if it were a 600MB collection of files.  I'm not the
>> target audience though.
>> >My point is this:  Somebody who already has a complete copy also has
>> access to a high-quality, hopper-fed scanner.  When they decide to scan it,
>> they'll have the entire thing scanned into PDFs in less than a week.  The
>> files then get uploaded to a for-pay file sharing site and it's done.
>> Bernard gets nothing out of it, and everybody who wants a new copy gets one
>> that will never degrade, never get torn or water damaged (assuming proper
>> backups).  It will be an inferior product, but they at least get the
>> product.
>> >I'm not advocating for this to happen in any way (like I said, I don't
>> even want a copy).  I'm just being as realistic about the world as Bernard
>> appears to be.
>> >On Thu, Nov 5, 2020 at 4:57 AM Gordonjcp <gordonjcp at gjcp.net> wrote:
>> >On Thu, Nov 05, 2020 at 03:32:30AM +0000, Bernard Arthur Hutchins, Jr
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Gordonjcp said:
>> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >> "There are literally people right here saying, "Say we can go ahead
>> with this and we will do it".  Right here."
>> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >> I must have missed the part where you explain who (NOT ME!!!) and how
>> a team of 100 is managed.  Herding Cats!  Back in 2017 I couldn’t get even
>> one person here to proof read a 2-page scan as a test.
>> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >Why would you need as many as 100 people?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> Proposed group efforts have a warm-and-fuzzy “Kumbaya” aura to them.
>> In general, it is folks standing around waiting for Mr. Somebody Should and
>> for a cue to take a bow.
>> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >You've heard of this "Linux" thing, right?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> Old saying on farms: “A boy can do a man’s work, two boys working
>> together will do half a man’s job, and three boys working together aren’t
>> worth a damn.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >Okay, so what do you actually want?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >Are you happy enough with the status quo where people sell on the only
>> existing copies of Electronotes?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >Do you want more people to read it?  Do you want it gone forever?  What
>> exactly are you shooting for here?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >Given that it seems to be one of the most jealously hoarded collections
>> of documentation going, and I've never even seen what's in it, why would I
>> bother to fork out hard cash for a tatty old second- or third- or
>> fourth-hand copy?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >Seriously, do you want help or not?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >--
>> >
>> >Gordonjcp
>> >
>> >
>> >
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