[sdiy] Marketplace Question

Fri Nov 6 10:11:35 CET 2020

The number suggested in a separate muffwigglers thread was $1 million for a
complete buy-out.

On Thu, Nov 5, 2020 at 11:18 AM Mark G via Synth-diy <
synth-diy at synth-diy.org> wrote:

> Maybe we just figure out a way through gofundme or something similar to
> raise enough money so that Bernie gets an immediate influx of cash plus
> enough additional to pay someone else to do all the work so that he can
> continue to sell copies. That way they stay available, Bernie makes some
> money, he controls all the sales and process, he retains the rights to do
> whatever he wants to in the future, someone else does the work. If it
> doesn't work out at least people got a chance to purchase a copy again for
> a period, and Bernie gets a chunk of upfront money. Plus hopefully it
> generates additional interest in Electronotes so that there is a reasonable
> sales stream for a period generating more money for Bernie.
>
>
> Mark
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BrightBoy <jdec at mindspring.com>
> To: synth-diy at synth-diy.org
> Sent: Thu, Nov 5, 2020 12:02 pm
> Subject: Re: [sdiy] Marketplace Question
>
> I should clarify that AES membership is around $200/year with the PRINTED
> JOURNAL option.
>
> It's cheaper if you are happy with PDF copies of the journal.
>
> Jeff
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: BrightBoy <jdec at mindspring.com>
> >Sent: Nov 5, 2020 11:54 AM
> >To: SDIY <synth-diy at synth-diy.org>
> >Subject: Re: [sdiy] Marketplace Question
> >
> >I just had another idea in chatting with another SDIY member on FB.
> >
> >Perhaps Bernie should donate the entire EN collection to the Audio
> Engineering Society (AES)
> >
> >I can't imagine them turning that away and would want to see it archived.
> >
> >If you want access, you become an AES member (about $200/year)
> >
> >Clearly they know how to scan and archive stuff as all their journals and
> >conference proceedings are available for download.
> >
> >All AES members have free access to their entire library.
> >
> >And it furthers the organization.
> >
> >A nice living legacy.
> >
> >Jeff
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >
> >From: "Chromatest J. Pantsmaker"
> >Sent: Nov 5, 2020 11:36 AM
> >To: Gordonjcp
> >Cc: SDIY
> >Subject: Re: [sdiy] Marketplace Question
> >
> >I hate to say it, but when Bernard passes, somebody is going to make
> digital copies and start selling them.  They're going to be low-quality,
> even if they're high-quality scans.  A scanned-to-PDF document is never as
> nice as a designed-for-PDF document.  Without somebody like Bernard being
> emotionally involved enough to be doing the QC, the product isn't going to
> be very good.  It likely won't be searchable, maybe there's a TOC, but it
> won't link to the sections/pages.  The graphics will be sub-par.
> >
> >Will people buy it?  It sounds like it.  Personally, I have no need or
> desire for it, even if it were a 600MB collection of files.  I'm not the
> target audience though.
> >My point is this:  Somebody who already has a complete copy also has
> access to a high-quality, hopper-fed scanner.  When they decide to scan it,
> they'll have the entire thing scanned into PDFs in less than a week.  The
> files then get uploaded to a for-pay file sharing site and it's done.
> Bernard gets nothing out of it, and everybody who wants a new copy gets one
> that will never degrade, never get torn or water damaged (assuming proper
> backups).  It will be an inferior product, but they at least get the
> product.
> >I'm not advocating for this to happen in any way (like I said, I don't
> even want a copy).  I'm just being as realistic about the world as Bernard
> appears to be.
> >On Thu, Nov 5, 2020 at 4:57 AM Gordonjcp <gordonjcp at gjcp.net> wrote:
> >On Thu, Nov 05, 2020 at 03:32:30AM +0000, Bernard Arthur Hutchins, Jr
> wrote:
> >
> >> Gordonjcp said:
> >
> >>
> >
> >> "There are literally people right here saying, "Say we can go ahead
> with this and we will do it".  Right here."
> >
> >>
> >
> >> I must have missed the part where you explain who (NOT ME!!!) and how a
> team of 100 is managed.  Herding Cats!  Back in 2017 I couldn’t get even
> one person here to proof read a 2-page scan as a test.
> >
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >Why would you need as many as 100 people?
> >
> >
> >
> >> Proposed group efforts have a warm-and-fuzzy “Kumbaya” aura to them.
> In general, it is folks standing around waiting for Mr. Somebody Should and
> for a cue to take a bow.
> >
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >You've heard of this "Linux" thing, right?
> >
> >
> >
> >> Old saying on farms: “A boy can do a man’s work, two boys working
> together will do half a man’s job, and three boys working together aren’t
> worth a damn.
> >
> >
> >
> >Okay, so what do you actually want?
> >
> >
> >
> >Are you happy enough with the status quo where people sell on the only
> existing copies of Electronotes?
> >
> >
> >
> >Do you want more people to read it?  Do you want it gone forever?  What
> exactly are you shooting for here?
> >
> >
> >
> >Given that it seems to be one of the most jealously hoarded collections
> of documentation going, and I've never even seen what's in it, why would I
> bother to fork out hard cash for a tatty old second- or third- or
> fourth-hand copy?
> >
> >
> >
> >Seriously, do you want help or not?
> >
> >
> >
> >--
> >
> >Gordonjcp
> >
> >
> >
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