[sdiy] Marketplace Question

[Phillip Gallo]

Bernie,
I just opened up a 3-ring binder to view  an "Electronotes Newsletter" Vol
1, No.1. (January 21,1972) as a reminder of pre-internet information
acquisition.
A world of regular visits to comb libraries and newsstands for mentions (no
matter how peripheral) of electronic music and the methods, platforms, and
devices for its creation.

Back then it was onesie/twosie purchasing of  ICL8038, MC1595, LM301's
(etc), from the "Will Call" desk at a Schweber and mail-order from
Poly-Pacs, Ancrona, James, and others  (sitting in the lobby at Schweber
one could silently rip-out the magazine subscription cards for Electronics,
and ED).

The Electronotes Newsletter emerged to bind a community of subscribers with
regular exposure to a wealth of targetted EM information. I fight the
desire to list the various forms of information from tutorial, editorial,
design, demographic and related disciplines.   Crowning the Newsletter
content was the updating staple of recommended  "club circuits" with
specific detail as to construction, sourcing, and operation.

Thank You.

The Newsletter also reminds one of how the world has changed.  I can't
imagine the names and addresses of club members being published openly in
the pages,(which also fed the community aspect of the Newsletter).

I perhaps too often mention how you described your kitchen regularly
stacked high with Newsletters as you prepared for distribution.
Those who have, at times, used their kitchen as a lab, rehearsal space, and
assembly area, understand the degree of dedication this indicates.

What a marvelous achievement and effort EN represents.  Your desire to
maintain personal standards for insertion into the modern database is
pretty easy to understand.

regards,
p

On Thu, Nov 5, 2020 at 9:38 AM Chromatest J. Pantsmaker <
chromatest at azburners.org> wrote:

> I hate to say it, but when Bernard passes, somebody is going to make
> digital copies and start selling them.  They're going to be low-quality,
> even if they're high-quality scans.  A scanned-to-PDF document is never as
> nice as a designed-for-PDF document.  Without somebody like Bernard being
> emotionally involved enough to be doing the QC, the product isn't going to
> be very good.  It likely won't be searchable, maybe there's a TOC, but it
> won't link to the sections/pages.  The graphics will be sub-par.
>
> Will people buy it?  It sounds like it.  Personally, I have no need or
> desire for it, even if it were a 600MB collection of files.  I'm not the
> target audience though.
>
> My point is this:  Somebody who already has a complete copy also has
> access to a high-quality, hopper-fed scanner.  When they decide to scan it,
> they'll have the entire thing scanned into PDFs in less than a week.  The
> files then get uploaded to a for-pay file sharing site and it's done.
> Bernard gets nothing out of it, and everybody who wants a new copy gets one
> that will never degrade, never get torn or water damaged (assuming proper
> backups).  It will be an inferior product, but they at least get the
> product.
>
> I'm not advocating for this to happen in any way (like I said, I don't
> even want a copy).  I'm just being as realistic about the world as Bernard
> appears to be.
>
> On Thu, Nov 5, 2020 at 4:57 AM Gordonjcp <gordonjcp at gjcp.net> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Nov 05, 2020 at 03:32:30AM +0000, Bernard Arthur Hutchins, Jr
>> wrote:
>> > Gordonjcp said:
>> >
>> > "There are literally people right here saying, "Say we can go ahead
>> with this and we will do it".  Right here."
>> >
>> > I must have missed the part where you explain who (NOT ME!!!) and how a
>> team of 100 is managed.  Herding Cats!  Back in 2017 I couldn’t get even
>> one person here to proof read a 2-page scan as a test.
>> >
>>
>> Why would you need as many as 100 people?
>>
>> > Proposed group efforts have a warm-and-fuzzy “Kumbaya” aura to them.
>> In general, it is folks standing around waiting for Mr. Somebody Should and
>> for a cue to take a bow.
>> >
>>
>> You've heard of this "Linux" thing, right?
>>
>> > Old saying on farms: “A boy can do a man’s work, two boys working
>> together will do half a man’s job, and three boys working together aren’t
>> worth a damn.
>>
>> Okay, so what do you actually want?
>>
>> Are you happy enough with the status quo where people sell on the only
>> existing copies of Electronotes?
>>
>> Do you want more people to read it?  Do you want it gone forever?  What
>> exactly are you shooting for here?
>>
>> Given that it seems to be one of the most jealously hoarded collections
>> of documentation going, and I've never even seen what's in it, why would I
>> bother to fork out hard cash for a tatty old second- or third- or
>> fourth-hand copy?
>>
>> Seriously, do you want help or not?
>>
>> --
>> Gordonjcp
>>
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