[sdiy] Marketplace Question

BrightBoy jdec at mindspring.com
Thu Nov 5 18:02:12 CET 2020


I should clarify that AES membership is around $200/year with the PRINTED JOURNAL option.

It's cheaper if you are happy with PDF copies of the journal.

Jeff

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>From: BrightBoy <jdec at mindspring.com>
>Sent: Nov 5, 2020 11:54 AM
>To: SDIY <synth-diy at synth-diy.org>
>Subject: Re: [sdiy] Marketplace Question
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>I just had another idea in chatting with another SDIY member on FB.
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>Perhaps Bernie should donate the entire EN collection to the Audio Engineering Society (AES)
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>I can't imagine them turning that away and would want to see it archived.
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>If you want access, you become an AES member (about $200/year)
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>Clearly they know how to scan and archive stuff as all their journals and
>conference proceedings are available for download.
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>All AES members have free access to their entire library.
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>And it furthers the organization.
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>A nice living legacy.
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>Jeff
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>-----Original Message-----
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>From: "Chromatest J. Pantsmaker" 
>Sent: Nov 5, 2020 11:36 AM
>To: Gordonjcp 
>Cc: SDIY 
>Subject: Re: [sdiy] Marketplace Question
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>I hate to say it, but when Bernard passes, somebody is going to make digital copies and start selling them.  They're going to be low-quality, even if they're high-quality scans.  A scanned-to-PDF document is never as nice as a designed-for-PDF document.  Without somebody like Bernard being emotionally involved enough to be doing the QC, the product isn't going to be very good.  It likely won't be searchable, maybe there's a TOC, but it won't link to the sections/pages.  The graphics will be sub-par.
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>Will people buy it?  It sounds like it.  Personally, I have no need or desire for it, even if it were a 600MB collection of files.  I'm not the target audience though.
>My point is this:  Somebody who already has a complete copy also has access to a high-quality, hopper-fed scanner.  When they decide to scan it, they'll have the entire thing scanned into PDFs in less than a week.  The files then get uploaded to a for-pay file sharing site and it's done.  Bernard gets nothing out of it, and everybody who wants a new copy gets one that will never degrade, never get torn or water damaged (assuming proper backups).  It will be an inferior product, but they at least get the product.
>I'm not advocating for this to happen in any way (like I said, I don't even want a copy).  I'm just being as realistic about the world as Bernard appears to be.
>On Thu, Nov 5, 2020 at 4:57 AM Gordonjcp <gordonjcp at gjcp.net> wrote:
>On Thu, Nov 05, 2020 at 03:32:30AM +0000, Bernard Arthur Hutchins, Jr wrote:
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>> Gordonjcp said:
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>> "There are literally people right here saying, "Say we can go ahead with this and we will do it".  Right here."
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>> I must have missed the part where you explain who (NOT ME!!!) and how a team of 100 is managed.  Herding Cats!  Back in 2017 I couldn’t get even one person here to proof read a 2-page scan as a test.
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>Why would you need as many as 100 people?
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>> Proposed group efforts have a warm-and-fuzzy “Kumbaya” aura to them.  In general, it is folks standing around waiting for Mr. Somebody Should and for a cue to take a bow.
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>You've heard of this "Linux" thing, right?
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>> Old saying on farms: “A boy can do a man’s work, two boys working together will do half a man’s job, and three boys working together aren’t worth a damn.
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>Okay, so what do you actually want?
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>Are you happy enough with the status quo where people sell on the only existing copies of Electronotes?
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>Do you want more people to read it?  Do you want it gone forever?  What exactly are you shooting for here?
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>Given that it seems to be one of the most jealously hoarded collections of documentation going, and I've never even seen what's in it, why would I bother to fork out hard cash for a tatty old second- or third- or fourth-hand copy?
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>Seriously, do you want help or not?
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>-- 
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>Gordonjcp
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