[sdiy] Marketplace Question

Thu Nov 5 05:56:03 CET 2020

Some of you talk about Bernie like he is not reading these messages. It
seems like you should show the man a little respect. I don't particularly
like pointing this out, but damn. He started this post, perhaps you should
just ask him outright these questions instead of talking past him to others
and if he doesn't answer you then that's his right. He only asked if people
could sell their used bundles of his papers on the new marketplace and now
he has been propositioned to assist with a republication of them. I would
like to see that as much as anyone else, but he obviously will never do
that. You really should stop talking about him dying from Covid though,
that's just straight up disrespectful and I don't mind pointing that out.

On Wed, Nov 4, 2020 at 11:22 PM BrightBoy <jdec at mindspring.com> wrote:

> To clarify, I meant a persistent legacy with accessibility to content.
>
> He's at least 72.
>
> He could die of Covid-19 at a moments notice.
>
> Does he have doomsday plan for Electronotes?
>
> Also, why isn't he selling paper copies right now?
>
> I don't see an explanation other than assumed/implied covid concerns.
>
> Jeff
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ColinMuirDorward
> Sent: Nov 4, 2020 10:24 PM
> To: BrightBoy
> Cc: *SYNTH DIY
> Subject: Re: [sdiy] Marketplace Question
>
> Not to combative, but I think Mr. Hutchins has already left a legacy that
> will continue for generations to come!
>
> On Wed, Nov 4, 2020, 7:45 PM BrightBoy, <jdec at mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>> Everyone has a price.
>>
>> What would it take to buy the whole operation and Bernie relinquishes the
>> burden around his neck for good?
>>
>> I fear he will probably die without leaving a legacy behind that will
>> continue for generations to come.
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: David G Dixon
>> Sent: Nov 4, 2020 7:41 PM
>> To: "'Bernard Arthur Hutchins, Jr'" , synth-diy at synth-diy.org
>> Subject: Re: [sdiy] Marketplace Question
>>
>> At the risk of some serious opprobrium, I'm just going to go ahead
>> and address the 800-pound gorilla in the room:
>>
>> If no one has ever made any money from Electronotes, and (evidently) no
>> one ever will, and the owner is unwilling to sell fresh copies, then why is
>> it all protected and kept secret like the script of next year's blockbuster
>> movie?   Why not just put it all in the public domain and allow (or,
>> indeed, encourage) anyone with a copy to scan it to PDF and put it all on
>> the damned internet already?
>>
>> Bernie doesn't want to part with it, but he doesn't want to sell it, but
>> he doesn't want to give it away, and he certainly doesn't want anyone who
>> hasn't paid for it to ever see it.  He might as well just throw it all on a
>> bonfire and be done with it.  I know that I, for one, am pretty tired of
>> hearing about what an enormous burden it all is.
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* Synth-diy [mailto:synth-diy-bounces at synth-diy.org] *On Behalf Of
>> *Bernard Arthur Hutchins, Jr
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 04, 2020 2:56 PM
>> *To:* synth-diy at synth-diy.org
>> *Subject:* [sdiy] Marketplace Question
>>
>> [*CAUTION:* Non-UBC Email]
>>
>> *Don wrote: On Nov 3, 2020, at 12:34 PM, Bernard Arthur Hutchins, Jr
>> <bah13 at cornell.edu <http://synth-diy.org/mailman/listinfo/synth-diy>>
>> wrote: *
>>
>> >
>>
>> >* READ - then comment -PLEASE.  Reading comprehension PLEASE.  *
>>
>> >
>>
>> >* I was ONLY interested to see if the Marketplace allowed people whom I
>> might (as a courtesy) direct there to connect a willing buyer to a set of
>> USED Electronotes (Ben says OK), not to reopen an uninformed, assuming,
>> impractical, largely debunked discussion of how to supposedy provide new
>> copies etc. ( I regret not letting the sleeping dog alone. )  No
>> suggestions please, unless you have ACTUALLY READ ALL the links and
>> understood them (and, I suppose – have money to invest).  *
>>
>> *Bernie’s comments in{ } *
>>
>> Bernie,
>>
>> I *have* read and understood all that.  And I agree that republishing
>> 6500 pages of complex technical material is a gargantuan task that nobody
>> in their right mind would want to attempt.
>>
>> But that's not what I suggested.
>>
>> Again... I am proposing to recruit an editorial team (from here or Muff
>> Wiggler) and publish a regular-sized book of selected Electronotes articles
>> on a particular topic,*{Who (specifically)recruits the team? Who pays
>> them?  Volunters! (Don’t be silly.) Who pays the printer?}* do it up
>> nice, and see how the book does in the market.  If successful, turn
>> another topic into the next book.
>>
>> The important part is that you, Bernie, would not be doing the work,
>> other than advise and approval.  *{Sorry – not available.}*
>>
>> I know *exactly* how to do publication-quality plots and schematics.  It's
>> not difficult.  And we could put together a set of tools to assist in
>> much of the work.
>>
>> ---
>>
>> Second proposal:
>>
>> Would you, Bernie, consider allowing others to republish Electronotes
>> material on their own *{the offer has been out for 20 years}*, in the
>> form described above, with a percentage of the revenue going to you?
>> *{Upfront?}*
>>
>> ---
>>
>> My overall point is that this stuff is culturally, technically, and
>> historically important, the modular synthesizer renaissance has created a
>> demand, there are very few books out on this topic, the current state of EN
>> distribution is mostly inaccessible *{Not true IF people look for USED
>> copies -  try this first}*, and there's money to be made *{NOT in 40
>> years so far!}*.
>>
>> ---
>>
>> And one more...
>>
>> What if there was a publishing company that specialized in upscale books
>> on electronic music?
>>
>>   -- Don
>>
>> --
>>
>> Donald Tillman, Palo Alto, California
>>
>> http://www.till.com
>>
>> *{THANKS DON – Bernie} *
>>
>>
>>
>>
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