[sdiy] Power Supply Start-up Issues

mark verbos markverbos at gmail.com
Thu Aug 27 15:18:52 CEST 2020


Unfortunately,  the problem happens on those, too. Vintage Buchla cabinets use Power One supplies and a lifetime ago I replaced all of mine and had exactly this problem. This list was able to provide me a mod to disable the sensing circuit to stop the latch up.


Mark




> On Aug 27, 2020, at 6:47 AM, Oren Leavitt <obl64 at ix.netcom.com> wrote:
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> If you're doing a power supply for a whole synth cabinet, I'd just spend a little extra for a good ready-made power supply like the Power-One HAA, HBB or HCC series power supplies.
> 
> The 3-terminal regulators are not the best choice where you're going to have several modules and the cumulative inrush currents they impose.
> 
> - Oren
> 
> On 8/26/20 6:24 AM, ackolonges fds wrote:
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> I've been having issues with a very standard +/- 12V power supply design for a modular synth. Every once in a while when powering up, the positive rail doesn't rise, and it needs to be reset to work. After some trial and error, and research, I found mention of this issue in Douglas Self's 'Small Signal Audio Design' book, where he shows a circuit almost identical to my power supply. A screen grab of the related page can be found here: https://pasteboard.co/Jo8PuIu.png <https://pasteboard.co/Jo8PuIu.png>
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>> This paragraph from that page describes the issue I'm having perfectly : 
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>> "D2, D4 will prevent damage in this case, but leave the power supply vulnerable to start-up problems; if its output is being pulled down by the 15 V regulator, the 15 V regulator may refuse to start. This is actually a very dangerous situation, because it is quite easy to come up with a circuit where start-up will only fail one time in 20 or more, the incidence being apparently completely random, but presumably controlled by the exact point in the AC mains cycle where the supply is switched on, and other variables such as temperature, the residual charge left on the reservoir capacitors, and the phase of the moon. If even one start-up failure event is overlooked or dismissed as unimportant. then there is likely to be serious grief further down the line. Every power supply start-up failure must be taken seriously."
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>> Unfortunately after stressing how important it is to fix such an issue, no solutions are mentioned...  I've tried removing all of the protection diodes, increasing and decreasing the value of the smoothing caps, tried many different makes of voltage regulators, and also tried an NTC thermistor to slow the in-rush current, all to no avail. 
>> 
>> I'm starting to run out of ideas, so if anyone on the list has come across a fix it would be great to hear about it. 
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