[sdiy] Difficult 2164 behaviour between different sections.
Tom Bugs
admin at bugbrand.co.uk
Wed May 30 11:15:47 CEST 2018
Hi,
I've been farting around with a big design for 18 months already at
least (!!) and turned up some behaviour in the 2164s that I've not
encountered before, so wondered if anyone else on the list has such
experiences or other comments - or posting as a potential warning..
The design uses two 2164s, so 8 VCAs used as follows:
1 for Tri-Core VCO plus one for temperature compensation
2 for SV-Filter plus one for temp comp
1 for VCA plus one for linearization
1 for VC-decay
Most of the circuit approaches are pretty standard and ones which I have
used many times before.
Having made what I thought was the final prototype and overall enjoying
the results, I then noticed that the adjusting the VCA and VC-Decay
settings were slightly altering the VCO frequency by about 10cents each
- argh!
In that version the TriCore + Temp Comp were on the same 2164 as the
VC-Decay and the VCA (not the linearization section of it).
I did another prototype sharing the 2164 sections differently - so the
VCO sections were on the chip with the SVF core (not the temp comp for it).
It solved the original problem - but then shifted it elsewhere! Now
adjusting the VCF cutoff would affect the VCO freq (by 40cents)
Voltage refs are stable, power lines are solid and bypassed, overall
layout approaches are, I think, good - so I can only now put it down to
interaction between 2164 sections.
I have identified that the output of the VCO Temp-Compensation section
is varying as VCF cutoff is adjusted (again, without the voltage sources
or the temp-comp voltage varying).
One thing I have not massively investigated is the biasing of the 2164 -
there is the graph on the datasheet suggesting that minimum CV
bleedthrough should be achieved with something like a 560k resistor.
Tried a bit, but without success.
I've already drawn out a new prototype with different temp-compensation
approaches, but I wondered whether anyone has any smart ideas on
something I may have missed.
Best! Tom
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