[sdiy] History of SDIY?

Wed May 30 10:16:42 CEST 2018

Sorry, I can't express how much I disagree with you.
By saying softsynths aren't SDIY you ARE disrespecting them and those 
who make them. Stop it. You're verging on synth bigotry.

On 2018-05-30 04:28, Quincas Moreira wrote:

> There's no arguing that serum is a synthesizer. But there's a 
> difference between a synth that runs on a standard PC and one that runs 
> on dedicated hardware. And synth diy has always been about BUILDING 
> physical objects that are dedicated synthesizers. No diss on softsynths 
> at all, they are not inferior, just a different philosophy, one that 
> hasn't traditionally been associated with the common use of the term 
> SDIY.
> 
> Quincas "putting his foot in his mouth again" Moreira
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On May 29, 2018, at 10:17 PM, Stephan Vladimir Bugaj 
> <stephan at bugaj.com> wrote:
> 
> This belief is why so few of us "purely" software folks find their way 
> to this list, sadly
> 
> I hardly see why Serum (predominantly written by two people in their 
> homes) wouldn't be SDIY, yet many of the Eurorack builders would be
> 
> If you ported Serum to, say, ARM and put it in a box with some knobs on 
> it, it would magically transform from "not a synthesizer" into a 
> synthesizer?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On May 29, 2018, at 1:05 PM, Quincas Moreira <quincas at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Paula, if you water down the definition too much it becomes 
> meaningless. 99% of people I know, when they think SDIY they think of 
> hardware synths and modules, whether they are analog or digital. To me 
> at least it makes sense to keep ITB and dedicated hardware somewhat 
> separate. Call it Soft Synth DIY if you will :)
> Just my 2 c
> 
> On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 2:57 PM, <paula at synth.net> wrote:
> 
> why?
> 
> if I write a softsynth, and put it in a VST that's not synth DIY? But 
> if I write a softsynth and put it in a chip in a box that is synth DIY?
> 
> Paula
> 
> On 2018-05-29 16:11, Quincas Moreira wrote:
> Oh, I would leave soft synths out of it for clarity's sake...
> 
> Software running in a dedicated module or hardware synth, sure :)
> 
> On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 10:05 AM, <paula at synth.net> wrote:
> Fair points Tom.
> 
> Though I'd disagree with the electronotes comment, it only covers 
> analogue synthesis techniques.
> 
> for me SDIY encompasses analogue, digital, hybrid and soft synths, as 
> long as you made it yourself :)
> 
> Paula
> 
> On 2018-05-29 15:43, Tom Wiltshire wrote:
> No need to pigeon hole, but if you were (say) writing a book on the
> topic, you'd have to decide what you put in and what you leave out.
> 
> I think the magazines and books give a pretty good idea of what was
> going on through the decades. The Brabani books and R.A. Penfold and
> R.M.Marston have quite a lot to answer for in my case.
> In many ways, Bernie's Electronotes *is* the history of Synth-DIY
> already! Ok, it's only a single source and a single editor, but it
> follows the progress of the field over a long period of time and
> covers pretty much everything sooner or later. I doubt there's a more
> comprehensive overview.
> 
> Tom
> 
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> On 29 May 2018, at 13:18, paula at synth.net wrote:
> 
> Why classify/pigeon hole "what" SDIY is?
> The world seems obsessed with putting things in boxes, let's not do the 
> same here please
> 
> On 2018-05-29 12:36, Rob Kam wrote:
> Unlike for the history of electronic music http://120years.net/, 
> apparently
> there's not much documentation specifically for the history of DIY
> electronic music equipment. I have some questions, if I may.
> How to define SDIY - it's not just exclusively synths, amateurs making
> electronic music circuits as opposed to plugging together ready-made 
> parts?
> When did SDIY begin and how has it developed over the years? Especially
> since the invention of semiconductors but before then should also be
> included. What were the significant moments and who were the pioneers 
> along
> the way?
> Bob Moog sold Theremin kits in the 1950s. Guitar pedals began 
> development in
> the 1960s. Before this there were guitar amplifiers with effects built 
> in,
> and earlier still people used magnetic tape. The PAiA FAQ states that 
> the
> 1970s were busy, the 1980s were quieter, (with the hobbyists being
> distracted by PCs) and that interest picked up again in the 1990s. PAiA 
> has
> been producing synthesizer kits since 1972. Electronotes started in 
> 1972.
> Various magazine articles by authors such as Tim Orr, John Simonton, 
> Don
> Lancaster, Craig Anderton, etc. give some sort of indication. The 
> earliest
> DIY electronic music instrument books seem to be from the early to
> mid-1970s.
> How to distinguish what's SDIY from R&D? Obviously the pioneers and
> inventors like Harald Bode and Kraftwerk had to DIY; does this get 
> ignored?
> Does it begin with the electro-magnetic Helmholtz resonator?
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