[sdiy] Mail formats

David G Dixon dixon at mail.ubc.ca
Fri May 25 05:00:19 CEST 2018


I hate all emails which are not in plain text, including my own.

Cheers, Andre! 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Synth-diy [mailto:synth-diy-bounces at synth-diy.org] On 
> Behalf Of Andre Majorel
> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 8:59 AM
> To: synth-diy at synth-diy.org
> Subject: Re: [sdiy] Mail formats
> 
> On 2018-05-22 17:13 +0000, john slee wrote:
> 
> > Turning it into some elitist 'you can only use a mail 
> client created 
> > prior to 1995 because harrumph' group is ridiculously anti-user and 
> > unnecessary. Is that your goal, plaintext email fanpeople?
> 
> 1. Plain text is about the most basic format there is. It can be
>    documented in one paragraph. It's so simple that it has been
>    implemented in devices that do not even have a microprocessor,
>    namely teletypes.
> 
>    For comparison, the standards for HTML 4 and CSS 2 added up
>    to about 700 pages. God knows what it is now.
> 
>    If the mailer you use makes it more difficult to write plain
>    text than HTML, that can hardly be explained by the
>    difficulty of the task.
> 
> 2. Elitism is not always in the other camp. Think of the common
>    attitude of "if you do not use the latest web services with
>    the latest software on the latest hardware, you are a cave
>    man and therefore not worthy of consideration". How is that
>    not elitist ?
> 
> 3. Are there people who insist on plain text for bad reasons ?
>    Sure. Just like there are people who insist on HTML for bad
>    reasons.
> 
> 4. Painting HTML users as victims of plain text users is
>    specious. Me sending you a plain text message does not force
>    you to have a text-only mailer. You sending me an HTML
>    message forces me to have an HTML-capable mailer.
> 
> > As long as I can still post from the Gmail mobile app & 
> Gmail web UI 
> > without going to stupid lengths that I don't need for _any other 
> > mailing list, even the most greybeard-y lists_, I'm happy
> >
> > FWIW almost all of my interactions with this list are on my 
> iPhone in 
> > the Gmail app, killing time on public transport or similar.
> 
> In an earlier post, you described having problems with the 
> list as a result of one's choice of mailer as 
> "self-inflicted". Would you say that there is a double standard here ?
> 
> --
> André Majorel http://www.teaser.fr/~amajorel/ 
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