[sdiy] What test gear do you use?

[sleepy_dog at gmx.de]

Hehe, but there is one weirdness with the current Rigol sopes that I now 
remember I found irritating when first using that Rigol:
Say you feed a clean sine to the scope. When the signal amplitude 
exceeds the Y axis scale, you won't see a line go up left, one right, 
and nothing in the middle - it actually looks like there is a sine 
miraculously clipped exactly at the highest (and lowest) line of the 
screen. If you then change the Y scale setting, you realize that's not 
the case.
I wonder why anyone would do it that way, but it doesn't confuse me as 
much anymore as it did at first.


rsdio at audiobanshee.com wrote:
> My apologies. It appears that I haven’t used the Rigol, either.
>
> I just contacted my client, and the ‘scope that gave me so much trouble was the Agilent Technologies DSO3202A, 200 MHz, 1 GSa/s Digital Storage Oscilloscope. That’s the one with such horrible encoder tracking that I found it unusable.
>
> I must have somehow conflated the horrible practice of hacking the cheap Rigol to exceed the specifications of its front end with the horrible experience I had with the Agilent.
>
> Brian
>
>
> On May 7, 2018, at 9:03 PM, rsdio at audiobanshee.com wrote:
>> I have never seen an Owon scope at any of my clients’ facilities, so I won’t be able to give one the ol’ Rigol test.
>>
>>
>> But you don’t need me, you can try the following for yourself:
>>
>> 1) Start with a circuit that has some kind of DC offset, preferably an offset that you can vary, although not necessarily continuously - two options will suffice. Maybe something with a virtual ground.
>>
>> 2) Connect a probe to this DC value and manually crank the gain on your ‘scope until you can measure the noise floor on that signal. You’ll need to adjust the Position to keep the signal on the screen at high gain since it’s not centered around 0 V.
>>
>> 3) Now, make a change to the circuit that shifts the DC bias elsewhere. With the high gain from step 2, this DC change should move the signal trace well off of the screen. Try adjusting the Position again until the signal is back in view.
>>
>>
>> With any decent ‘scope, these steps are not difficult. You intuitively change the Position knob quickly until the signal is visible somewhere on the screen, and then you slow down your adjustments and perhaps reverse direction until you get close to the desired reticle. Your adjustments will naturally get slower and slower and you make finer and finer adjustments.
>>
>> With the Rigol, steps 2 and 3 can be impossible. Turning the Position knob at a medium speed seems to take forever, and the signal doesn’t ever appear on the screen. Continued adjustment eventually results in an overshoot. Slow or fast turns of the Position encoder simply do not behave as expected. There are sudden jumps in the signal on the screen. There seem to be three modes: painfully slow, ridiculously fast with overshoot, or sudden changes between the extremes. As I said, I found the Rigol to be unusable.
>>
>> I’ve sent a message to my client asking what model Rigol ‘scope they have so I can find out whether it’s the same model you guys seem to love so much. My client is not exactly strapped for cash, they purchased their Rigol new, and they have not made any of the popular hacks. It’s probably a firmware design fail, or perhaps bad signal conditioning on the encoder(s') phase signals.
>>
>> Brian
>
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