[sdiy] distortion pedal for a modular system
Graheme Wilson
barkleycal at gmail.com
Wed May 2 17:21:15 CEST 2018
The Fuzz Face and similar pedals were designed for a speaker cabinet,
this is why a Fuzz Face often sounds like a fizz face without a cabinet.
I have a built a lot of distortion pedals including many variations of
the Fuzz Face, it is a great economical design.
One way you might use it is like Jan Hammer did, plug your synth into a
Marshall 100 watt stack with two 4 x12 cabinets,mike it up, crank up the
amp and stand well clear.
In summary the Fuzz Face needs to be able to move some air.
Graheme
On 02/05/18 09:27, stepan kayukov wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> Thank you for the lively thread.
>
> I have tried placing the FET in series with the capacitor. R7 connects
> to the source - and C1 is connected to the drain (and then ground.)
>
> This tames the circuit a great deal, but the bleed is still very much
> there.
>
> As for placing a capacitor between the collector of R2 and the first
> op amp... I realize I drew it wrong in Eagle. This is the "basic" fuzz
> circuit that I built, before sending to op amps:
> http://fuzzcentral.ssguitar.com/fuzzface/fuzzfacepnpschematic.gif
>
> So, the output from the transistor does pass through a 0.01uF
> capacitor before going to the op amp.
>
> Still, the problem continues. It sounds like many people have had
> similar experiences bringing distortion into a modular setup. Can it
> be done? I am hesitant to build a separate power supply just to power
> distortion modules.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 1, 2018 at 6:03 PM, Tom Wiltshire <tom at electricdruid.net
> <mailto:tom at electricdruid.net>> wrote:
>
> I was interested to read your experiences with that module,
> Quincas, since I had a hand in the design. I did some of the
> voltage-controlled elements, including the tone control. Later on
> it got an extra gain stage stuck on the front (to use up a spare
> op-amp, IIRC!) and that probably does make it noisy. To be fair,
> the original pedals aren't exactly quiet either.
>
> Tom
>
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>> On 1 May 2018, at 17:52, Quincas Moreira <quincas at gmail.com
>> <mailto:quincas at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> The Frequency Central Meth Amp module I build recently is
>> basically a Big Muff adapted to modular, and it is prone to the
>> same bleed through problem. I found that it is worse on some
>> PSUs than others. In My Arturia Rackbrute it is silent, in my
>> LM317/337 based linear supply it picks up all of my VCOs a lot.
>> My solution was to give it's very own small PSU, a little
>> meanwell DC DC converter. However, I suspect that sub regulating
>> the 12v to 9v solves two problems: It adapts the design without
>> any component value changes, AND isolates the circuit somewhat
>> from the main PSU. I have yet to try this myself but I think it's
>> worth a try.
>>
>> On Tue, May 1, 2018 at 8:59 AM, Walker Shurlds
>> <walkershurlds at gmail.com <mailto:walkershurlds at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>> On May 1, 2018 1:28 AM, stepan kayukov
>>> <stepan.kayukov at gmail.com <mailto:stepan.kayukov at gmail.com>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Walker,
>>>
>>> Thank you for the advice. It definitely sounds different
>>> than it would on a guitar, but I still like it. The real
>>> problem arises from hearing things at the output of the
>>> distortion, even when nothing is at the input.
>>>
>>> The R7/C1 distortion and the way the JFET is coupled
>>> created a kind of gating effect that I was fond of, but
>>> if you think it might be the reason for the overall
>>> bleeding, I should try it the more conventional way.
>>>
>>> Both of your suggestions are very helpful. I will try
>>> them immediately. Since I am new to this list, I do not
>>> know if I should post afterwards. Should I give an update?
>>>
>>
>> Yes, please update us! I think even if you leave C1 and Q3 as
>> they are, but add some small resistance in that branch
>> between C1 and R7 it could reduce the gain just enough to
>> reduce the noise. Another thing you could try is increasing
>> R8. There should be a value high enough that Q1 gets biased
>> all the way off---this changes the sound pretty drastically
>> (sounds kind of 8-bit) but makes it completely silent when
>> there's no input.
>>
>> On May 1, 2018, 8:35 AM -0500, Joe Frey <frey at radioles.com
>> <mailto:frey at radioles.com>>, wrote:
>>> The best distortion pedal(and I have built several) I ever
>>> built is the harmonic percolator. You can get the PCB layout
>>> and build info if you search pepper spray distortion. Be
>>> advised that one of the transistors connections are listed
>>> backwards. I used components for the original version, not
>>> the Steve Albini version. JoeF.
>>
>> I made one of the Tim Escobedo all-silicon version (but added
>> the diodes back in switchable) and it sounds pretty great
>> with synth. This would be a pretty good candidate for a
>> module since the "harmonics" knob is just an attenuator.
>>
>>
>>
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