[sdiy] Eagle for PCB Layout
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Thu Jun 28 22:17:00 CEST 2018
Have not used Dip Trace, as of yet, but will take a peek.
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On Thursday, June 28, 2018, 4:11:24 PM EDT, sleepy_dog at gmx.de <sleepy_dog at gmx.de> wrote:
>> Hi Group,
>> Who is currently utilizing Eagle for their PCB layouts? If not, what are you currently using?
> Kicad. It's free-as-in-beer, Free-as-in-Speech, and saves all its files
> as well-documented plain text so it works well with version control
> software like git and it's easy to write your own tools to vandalise^W
> customise your libraries.
For the reasons listed, I would really like to use Kicad. Especially the
vandali..eh customizing aspect. Write some script that quickly does some
things the program doesn't do, or with much more effort... But I just
can't get over it's funny (to me) UI.
It looks like the most feature-rich free package out there, though, with
regards to some features regarded "pro only" in other packages.
Since I don't need those urgently enough...
So I'm using DipTrace, which is only "free to use", currently with 2
layers and 300 pins per board (500 if you e-mail them & confirm it's
I.e. unlike Eagle, the restriction is pin count, not board size. Only
you know what's more useful to you.
Prices for licenses above that seem reasonable, comparable to Eagle,
last time I checked.
If you used Eagle before, you might miss some simple but essential
seeming features like instant highlighting of a net in schematic and PCB
at the same time. (need to select from net list in DipTrace, quick
enough, but not as convenient)
If you never used Eagle, or any PCB design program at all (because they
all have, eh, "evolved", as in, *platypus*, UI designs, lol), the
likelihood seems high that, for the basic things, using DipTrace seems
rather self-explanatory. That includes entering circuits, making PCB
from that, and to a slightly lesser extent, making new components and
Not everything is on key combos by default - but you can give everything
one / customize all(?), so you could do "everything" with keyboard, from
what I've seen. Stuff in menu entries does usually list assigned key
combo. Context menu entries usually make sense. (yay!)
It does have *some* weird aspects to usage, e.g. scenarios where
selecting things gets fumbly, different sets of listed actions depending
on where on an object you click... But compared to what else I've seen
out there in the wild... It seems to present fewer barriers to get to do
The copper pour algorithm sometimes does funny things to parcitular pads
or regions around them (the connections), needs some hand tweaking for
No idea how that is in other packages. It's not too bad.
The humongous 3D library for components, a separate download, unpacks to
some gigabytes, does provide a nice 3D view of your board and a very
many kinds of common components.
A colleague EE recently said that that's a lot nicer in DipTrace than in
$$$$$ PADS. If that ain't something.
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