[sdiy] top soldering through hole
David Moylan
dave at westphila.net
Wed Feb 14 19:15:48 CET 2018
I'm also using 331 water soluble for most components, then a board wash.
Blame Paul Schreiber.
On 02/14/2018 09:13 AM, Ian Fritz wrote:
> I use Kester 44, never clean the flux, and boards I built 40 years ago
> are still fine. Absorbs water? Corrodes? Somebody please come over and
> show me, because I can't see any of that.
>
> Always solder from the top, too.
>
> Ian
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> On 2/14/2018 8:59 AM, Quincas Moreira wrote:
>> I use a local brand, Steren, 60/40
>> http://www.steren.com.mx/rollo-de-100-gramos-de-soldadura-con-aleacion-estano-plomo-60-40.html
>>
>>
>> Yeah I guess it's not no clean, just regular leaded. I just never felt
>> like enough flux got on the boards to warrant cleaning. I probably
>> should though, if it's corrosive in the long run. I've only been doing
>> this for 7 years, maybe I'll find out in 20 that I should have been
>> cleaning all along!
>>
>> What should I use to clean then?
>>
>> Thanks Pete
>>
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>> On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 8:59 AM, Pete Hartman <pete.hartman at gmail.com
>> <mailto:pete.hartman at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> What type of solder are you using? Brand and model?
>>
>> I use Kester 331 water soluble flux solder for early components
>> (stuff that can get wet), and it comes off the board entirely with a
>> brush (nylon bristles, like a really big toothbrush) and warm/hot
>> water. Thing about it is, if I were using it on the top and it were
>> getting under components it would take more like an ultrasonic bath
>> to clean and get flux out from under resistors and things, and if
>> you don't clean it, the stuff is corrosive in the longer run.
>>
>> I finish up for things that can't get wet (pots etc) with Kester 245
>> no-clean. It does leave some residue, but the main point is that
>> it's not meant to be cleaned off normally, and it doesn't leave
>> enough to look like some of the messes I've seen. I also use it for
>> any top solder touch ups.
>>
>> I've seen some really nasty work come across my workbench for
>> repair, stuff with 331 flux still on it after who knows how long,
>> stuff with ancient rosin flux with the black and brown lava flows
>> all over it.
>>
>> I figure if you're not using no-clean, you'd know it :)
>>
>> Pete
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 8:15 AM, Quincas Moreira <quincas at gmail.com
>> <mailto:quincas at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> I’ve never cleaned a board, ever... Maybe I’m using no clean
>> solder and didn’t even know it, I just never felt the need. My
>> builds look clean enough to me. Am I trippin’?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Feb 14, 2018, at 07:33, Pete Hartman <pete.hartman at gmail.com
>> <mailto:pete.hartman at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 7:25 AM, Mattias Rickardsson
>>> <mr at analogue.org <mailto:mr at analogue.org>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Top side is much simpler, I'll never go back - but
>>> probably a bit trickier to get clean from flux etc?
>>>
>>>
>>> I think this is the main reason I still primarily bottom
>>> solder, but I check my joints and if I have ones that didn't
>>> wick up to the top I'll touch them up with no-clean.
>>>
>>> Pete
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>> --
>> Quincas Moreira
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