[sdiy] Continuously variable waveshaping (was Behringer Neutron)

Rutger Vlek rutgervlek at gmail.com
Wed Apr 11 11:42:47 CEST 2018


Agreed! I had exactly the same feeling when reading it for the first time.

I suspect the scope of application (musical instruments) may justify part of its novelty, and perhaps the way the VCO core integrates with an MCU. But is such integration of systems really patent worthy? I'm surprised, and also curious what Moog benefits by having this patented.... 

Rutger



On 11 apr 2018, at 10:42, Dan Snazelle wrote:

> I'm often amazed at how Broad a patent can be . 
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> I'm not sure about which of this individually is totally new except that they are applying it to an analog core ..if they were aggressive about protecting this I wonder what elements of many current analog designs which implement Pwm , mcu or switches to control things would infringe on their patent. 
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> I'm not implying moog would do That but I'd love to know more about why this is totally unique . 
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> To me it looks like Mcu /high quality automotive pwm chips and many normal analog synth blocks and components as well as  system wide thinking ....
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> many people think on a system level to put a bunch of cool features together but is that what allows a patent ? Surely other products have used Pwm in this way (to control integration ) 
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> Or is what's unique combining all the slope voltages ? That doesn't seem unique either in the digital realm (yes it's controlling an analog core but .,,,)
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> Please help me understand what is so revolutionary here ?
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> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Apr 10, 2018, at 10:54 PM, Michael E Caloroso <mec.forumreader at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Click "download pdf" and you'll get the text with the figures, the
>> whole package.
>> 
>> MC
>> 
>>> On 4/10/18, David G Dixon <dixon at mail.ubc.ca> wrote:
>>> All I could see of the patent were the figures, but based on that, it looks
>>> a lot like what happens in the Dixie.  All of the "modes" shown in the
>>> final
>>> figure could be obtained simply by duty-cycle control of the driving square
>>> waves in a tri-square oscillator.
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