[sdiy] Odp: Re: Euro Synth Spec

[Bruno Afonso]

Do you think make noise would be what it is today had they adopted a
doepfer look in their modules?

On Fri, Oct 20, 2017, 15:59 Tim Ressel <timr at circuitabbey.com> wrote:

> Roman has a point, up to a point. Eurorack certainly has its problems.
> Roman didn't even mention the 12V rails, where 15V is so much better. But
> it also has its charms.
>
> It sounds like Roman is against Eurorack, and that is fine. There are
> other formats, like 5U for example. There you have only 2 different power
> connectors versus the inferior one choice for Eurorack. Also fixed width
> panels that always seem to be too small or too big. But at least the panels
> are black and 1/4" jacks are so kewl and there is a spec for the font. Oh,
> wait...
>
> This came up several years ago on my modules. I did extensive testing and
> found the font doesn't affect the sound at all.
>
> I've never seen panels other than the usual 1.6mm, so no sure about that.
> Sliding nuts are a great way to torture prisoners of war. Heck, even my
> friend Jeph who swore by sliding nuts changed his mind when he got a case
> with nut strips. Of course there is a way to fix the sliding nut issue:
> fill the rails all the way up with nuts, then remove 1 nut for wiggle room.
> Rails with or without lip, I have both,  don't care either way. As for
> screws, yes, three different sizes is a pain in the posterior. But screws
> are cheap and so are Altoids cans.
>
> And by the way, I have a standard jack color: It is silver ;-)
> I should also point out that there are standards for Eurorack:
> http://www.doepfer.de/a100_man/a100m_e.htm
> http://www.doepfer.de/a100_man/a100t_e.htm
>
> Sadly, no spec for the font.
>
> Perhaps Roman should consider founding a new format. It sounds like he has
> strong opinions on how things outta be. For me though, a format that has
> rigid standards for every last little thing sounds like going to the zoo:
> see the animals safely behind cages, no risk of anything going wrong, eat
> some popcorn. I prefer a safari on the Serengeti: Not so safe, never know
> which guide you're going to get, my get eaten by a lion. That's what
> Eurorack is like.
>
> --Timbo
>
>
> On 10/20/2017 11:45 AM, Roman wrote:
>
> Why bother with color jacks since whole eurorack is a mess!
> Power source - no specs at all, power cable - crap, power connector -
> mistake, mounting screws - M3 or M2.5 or inch-something, various rail types
> resulting in different srew lenght requirement, rails with or without lip,
> mounting holes in if full HP or half-HP location, sliding nuts - insanity,
> panel thickness and materials, from 1 to 5mm, and I haven't even touched CV
> ranges, neither in/out impedances, this list can go on and on.
> And anybody considering standarize jack colors? Gimme a break. How about
> uniform font?
>
> Roman
>
> Dnia 20 października 2017 19:39 Quincas Moreira <quincas at gmail.com>
> <quincas at gmail.com> napisał(a):
>
> I think I prefer the way Random Source does the Serge colour coding in
> Euro, it goes on the panel rather than on the jack. just a coloured circle
> around each jack. And keep it simple, just red, black and blue, more
> becomes messy, IMo
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Oct 20, 2017, at 11:41 AM, Vladimir Pantelic <vladoman at gmail.com>
> <vladoman at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> except for the Doepfer range, no other module I have uses these right
> angle Cliff jacks. And I don't even know where to buy the colored version
> from.
> so unless I do full color print panels, I see not way to implement this
> scheme even if I wanted.
>
>
> On 10/20/2017 06:05 PM, Andre Majorel wrote:
>
> http://www.elby-designs.com/webtek/panther/panther-jacks.htm
> I think that it would make panels look like angry fruit salads
> and that might be counter-productive. A quick way to tell
> outputs from inputs would be nice, though. Something like the
> Cwejman S1 but using brightness rather than hue. Eg white for
> outputs, black for inputs.
>
>
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