[sdiy] Odp: Re: Euro Synth Spec

Sat Oct 21 10:08:13 CEST 2017

Why?

Sent from my iPad

> On Oct 21, 2017, at 1:37 AM, NSSINC <nssinc at hevanet.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> I thought doepfer was a bad word on this list...
> 
> Or have "we" gotten over that.
> 
> 
> -Al
> 
> 
>> On 10/20/2017 12:57 PM, Tim Ressel wrote:
>> Roman has a point, up to a point. Eurorack certainly has its problems.
>> Roman didn't even mention the 12V rails, where 15V is so much better.
>> But it also has its charms.
>> 
>> It sounds like Roman is against Eurorack, and that is fine. There are
>> other formats, like 5U for example. There you have only 2 different
>> power connectors versus the inferior one choice for Eurorack. Also fixed
>> width panels that always seem to be too small or too big. But at least
>> the panels are black and 1/4" jacks are so kewl and there is a spec for
>> the font. Oh, wait...Â
>> 
>> This came up several years ago on my modules. I did extensive testing
>> and found the font doesn't affect the sound at all.
>> 
>> I've never seen panels other than the usual 1.6mm, so no sure about
>> that. Sliding nuts are a great way to torture prisoners of war. Heck,
>> even my friend Jeph who swore by sliding nuts changed his mind when he
>> got a case with nut strips. Of course there is a way to fix the sliding
>> nut issue: fill the rails all the way up with nuts, then remove 1 nut
>> for wiggle room. Rails with or without lip, I have both,Â  don't care
>> either way. As for screws, yes, three different sizes is a pain in the
>> posterior. But screws are cheap and so are Altoids cans.
>> 
>> And by the way, I have a standard jack color: It is silver ;-)
>> 
>> I should also point out that there are standards for Eurorack:
>> http://www.doepfer.de/a100_man/a100m_e.htm
>> http://www.doepfer.de/a100_man/a100t_e.htm
>> 
>> Sadly, no spec for the font.
>> 
>> Perhaps Roman should consider founding a new format. It sounds like he
>> has strong opinions on how things outta be. For me though, a format that
>> has rigid standards for every last little thing sounds like going to the
>> zoo: see the animals safely behind cages, no risk of anything going
>> wrong, eat some popcorn. I prefer a safari on the Serengeti: Not so
>> safe, never know which guide you're going to get, my get eaten by a
>> lion. That's what Eurorack is like.
>> 
>> --Timbo
>> 
>>> On 10/20/2017 11:45 AM, Roman wrote:
>>> Why bother with color jacks since whole eurorack is a mess!
>>> Power source - no specs at all, power cable - crap, power connector -
>>> mistake, mounting screws - M3 or M2.5 or inch-something, various rail
>>> types resulting in different srew lenght requirement, rails with or
>>> without lip, mounting holes in if full HP or half-HP location, sliding
>>> nuts - insanity, panel thickness and materials, from 1 to 5mm, and I
>>> haven't even touched CV ranges, neither in/out impedances, this list
>>> can go on and on.
>>> And anybody considering standarize jack colors? Gimme a break. How
>>> about uniform font?
>>> 
>>> Roman
>>> 
>>> Dnia 20 paÅºdziernika 2017 19:39 Quincas Moreira <quincas at gmail.com>
>>> napisaÅ‚(a):
>>> 
>>>    I think I prefer the way Random Source does the Serge colour
>>>    coding in Euro, it goes on the panel rather than on the jack. just
>>>    a coloured circle around each jack. And keep it simple, just red,
>>>    black and blue, more becomes messy, IMo
>>> 
>>>    Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>>        On Oct 20, 2017, at 11:41 AM, Vladimir Pantelic
>>>        <vladoman at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>        except for the Doepfer range, no other module I have uses
>>>        these right angle Cliff jacks. And I don't even know where to
>>>        buy the colored version from.
>>>        so unless I do full color print panels, I see not way to
>>>        implement this scheme even if I wanted.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>            On 10/20/2017 06:05 PM, Andre Majorel wrote:
>>> 
>>>            http://www.elby-designs.com/webtek/panther/panther-jacks.htm
>>>            I think that it would make panels look like angry fruit salads
>>>            and that might be counter-productive. A quick way to tell
>>>            outputs from inputs would be nice, though. Something like the
>>>            Cwejman S1 but using brightness rather than hue. Eg white for
>>>            outputs, black for inputs.
>>> 
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>> --Tim Ressel
>> Circuit Abbey
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