[sdiy] Odp: Re: Euro Synth Spec

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I thought doepfer was a bad word on this list...

Or have "we" gotten over that.


-Al


On 10/20/2017 12:57 PM, Tim Ressel wrote:
> Roman has a point, up to a point. Eurorack certainly has its problems.
> Roman didn't even mention the 12V rails, where 15V is so much better.
> But it also has its charms.
>
> It sounds like Roman is against Eurorack, and that is fine. There are
> other formats, like 5U for example. There you have only 2 different
> power connectors versus the inferior one choice for Eurorack. Also fixed
> width panels that always seem to be too small or too big. But at least
> the panels are black and 1/4" jacks are so kewl and there is a spec for
> the font. Oh, wait...Â
>
> This came up several years ago on my modules. I did extensive testing
> and found the font doesn't affect the sound at all.
>
> I've never seen panels other than the usual 1.6mm, so no sure about
> that. Sliding nuts are a great way to torture prisoners of war. Heck,
> even my friend Jeph who swore by sliding nuts changed his mind when he
> got a case with nut strips. Of course there is a way to fix the sliding
> nut issue: fill the rails all the way up with nuts, then remove 1 nut
> for wiggle room. Rails with or without lip, I have both,  don't care
> either way. As for screws, yes, three different sizes is a pain in the
> posterior. But screws are cheap and so are Altoids cans.
>
> And by the way, I have a standard jack color: It is silver ;-)
>
> I should also point out that there are standards for Eurorack:
> http://www.doepfer.de/a100_man/a100m_e.htm
> http://www.doepfer.de/a100_man/a100t_e.htm
>
> Sadly, no spec for the font.
>
> Perhaps Roman should consider founding a new format. It sounds like he
> has strong opinions on how things outta be. For me though, a format that
> has rigid standards for every last little thing sounds like going to the
> zoo: see the animals safely behind cages, no risk of anything going
> wrong, eat some popcorn. I prefer a safari on the Serengeti: Not so
> safe, never know which guide you're going to get, my get eaten by a
> lion. That's what Eurorack is like.
>
> --Timbo
>
> On 10/20/2017 11:45 AM, Roman wrote:
>> Why bother with color jacks since whole eurorack is a mess!
>> Power source - no specs at all, power cable - crap, power connector -
>> mistake, mounting screws - M3 or M2.5 or inch-something, various rail
>> types resulting in different srew lenght requirement, rails with or
>> without lip, mounting holes in if full HP or half-HP location, sliding
>> nuts - insanity, panel thickness and materials, from 1 to 5mm, and I
>> haven't even touched CV ranges, neither in/out impedances, this list
>> can go on and on.
>> And anybody considering standarize jack colors? Gimme a break. How
>> about uniform font?
>>
>> Roman
>>
>> Dnia 20 października 2017 19:39 Quincas Moreira <quincas at gmail.com>
>> napisał(a):
>>
>>     I think I prefer the way Random Source does the Serge colour
>>     coding in Euro, it goes on the panel rather than on the jack. just
>>     a coloured circle around each jack. And keep it simple, just red,
>>     black and blue, more becomes messy, IMo
>>
>>     Sent from my iPad
>>
>>         On Oct 20, 2017, at 11:41 AM, Vladimir Pantelic
>>         <vladoman at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>         except for the Doepfer range, no other module I have uses
>>         these right angle Cliff jacks. And I don't even know where to
>>         buy the colored version from.
>>         so unless I do full color print panels, I see not way to
>>         implement this scheme even if I wanted.
>>
>>
>>             On 10/20/2017 06:05 PM, Andre Majorel wrote:
>>
>>             http://www.elby-designs.com/webtek/panther/panther-jacks.htm
>>             I think that it would make panels look like angry fruit salads
>>             and that might be counter-productive. A quick way to tell
>>             outputs from inputs would be nice, though. Something like the
>>             Cwejman S1 but using brightness rather than hue. Eg white for
>>             outputs, black for inputs.
>>
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