[sdiy] Odp: Re: Euro Synth Spec

[Roman]

Yes, the 15V rails too, I said the list can go on and on...  I'm not against Eurorack, it has got its place, although it has emerged to some kind of cult now.  For someone who worked before with real subrack industrial/telecom stuff, all those "general guidelines" about eurorack modular just sound silly.   There's not one choice of Eurorack power connector, but actually 8 as combination of those 3 factors:   16/10-pin, shrouded/nonshrouded and good/reversed. But I'm not gonna argue on every other point, nothing good will come out of this, only useless flame war.   Yes, I may found another format, actually I do have basic concept ready for some time. Don't care if it will ever be adopted by others or not. Most probably not. Back in the days every modular had its own way of doing things and everybody was happy.   Roman  Dnia 20 października 2017 22:00 Tim Ressel <timr at circuitabbey.com> napisał(a):  Roman has a point, up to a point. Eurorack certainly has its
      problems. Roman didn't even mention the 12V rails, where 15V is so
      much better. But it also has its charms.   It sounds like Roman is against Eurorack, and that is fine. There
      are other formats, like 5U for example. There you have only 2
      different power connectors versus the inferior one choice for
      Eurorack. Also fixed width panels that always seem to be too small
      or too big. But at least the panels are black and 1/4" jacks are
      so kewl and there is a spec for the font. Oh, wait...    This came up several years ago on my modules. I did extensive
      testing and found the font doesn't affect the sound at all.   I've never seen panels other than the usual 1.6mm, so no sure
      about that. Sliding nuts are a great way to torture prisoners of
      war. Heck, even my friend Jeph who swore by sliding nuts changed
      his mind when he got a case with nut strips. Of course there is a
      way to fix the sliding nut issue: fill the rails all the way up
      with nuts, then remove 1 nut for wiggle room. Rails with or
      without lip, I have both,  don't care either way. As for screws,
      yes, three different sizes is a pain in the posterior. But screws
      are cheap and so are Altoids cans.   And by the way, I have a standard jack color: It is silver ;-)  I should also point out that there are standards for Eurorack:    www.doepfer.de www.doepfer.de    www.doepfer.de www.doepfer.de      Sadly, no spec for the font.       Perhaps Roman should consider founding a new format. It sounds like
    he has strong opinions on how things outta be. For me though, a
    format that has rigid standards for every last little thing sounds
    like going to the zoo: see the animals safely behind cages, no risk
    of anything going wrong, eat some popcorn. I prefer a safari on the
    Serengeti: Not so safe, never know which guide you're going to get,
    my get eaten by a lion. That's what Eurorack is like.      --Timbo        On 10/20/2017 11:45 AM, Roman wrote:  Why bother with color jacks since whole eurorack is a mess!  Power source - no specs at all, power cable - crap, power
        connector - mistake, mounting screws - M3 or M2.5 or
        inch-something, various rail types resulting in different srew
        lenght requirement, rails with or without lip, mounting holes in
        if full HP or half-HP location, sliding nuts - insanity, panel
        thickness and materials, from 1 to 5mm, and I haven't even
        touched CV ranges, neither in/out impedances, this list can go
        on and on.  And anybody considering standarize jack colors? Gimme a
        break. How about uniform font?   Roman  Dnia 20 października 2017 19:39 Quincas Moreira   <quincas at gmail.com>  napisał(a):  I think I prefer the way Random Source does the Serge
              colour coding in Euro, it goes on the panel rather than on
              the jack. just a coloured circle around each jack. And
              keep it simple, just red, black and blue, more becomes
              messy, IMo   Sent from my iPad   On Oct 20, 2017, at 11:41 AM, Vladimir Pantelic   <vladoman at gmail.com>  wrote:   except for the Doepfer range, no other module I have
                uses these right angle Cliff jacks. And I don't even
                know where to buy the colored version from.  so unless I do full color print panels, I see not way
                to implement this scheme even if I wanted.    On 10/20/2017 06:05 PM, Andre Majorel wrote:   www.elby-designs.com www.elby-designs.com  I think that it would make panels look like angry
                  fruit salads  and that might be counter-productive. A quick way
                  to tell  outputs from inputs would be nice, though.
                  Something like the  Cwejman S1 but using brightness rather than hue. Eg
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