[sdiy] Odp: Re: Euro Synth Spec

[Tim Ressel]

Roman has a point, up to a point. Eurorack certainly has its problems. 
Roman didn't even mention the 12V rails, where 15V is so much better. 
But it also has its charms.

It sounds like Roman is against Eurorack, and that is fine. There are 
other formats, like 5U for example. There you have only 2 different 
power connectors versus the inferior one choice for Eurorack. Also fixed 
width panels that always seem to be too small or too big. But at least 
the panels are black and 1/4" jacks are so kewl and there is a spec for 
the font. Oh, wait...

This came up several years ago on my modules. I did extensive testing 
and found the font doesn't affect the sound at all.

I've never seen panels other than the usual 1.6mm, so no sure about 
that. Sliding nuts are a great way to torture prisoners of war. Heck, 
even my friend Jeph who swore by sliding nuts changed his mind when he 
got a case with nut strips. Of course there is a way to fix the sliding 
nut issue: fill the rails all the way up with nuts, then remove 1 nut 
for wiggle room. Rails with or without lip, I have both,  don't care 
either way. As for screws, yes, three different sizes is a pain in the 
posterior. But screws are cheap and so are Altoids cans.

And by the way, I have a standard jack color: It is silver ;-)

I should also point out that there are standards for Eurorack:
http://www.doepfer.de/a100_man/a100m_e.htm
http://www.doepfer.de/a100_man/a100t_e.htm

Sadly, no spec for the font.

Perhaps Roman should consider founding a new format. It sounds like he 
has strong opinions on how things outta be. For me though, a format that 
has rigid standards for every last little thing sounds like going to the 
zoo: see the animals safely behind cages, no risk of anything going 
wrong, eat some popcorn. I prefer a safari on the Serengeti: Not so 
safe, never know which guide you're going to get, my get eaten by a 
lion. That's what Eurorack is like.

--Timbo

On 10/20/2017 11:45 AM, Roman wrote:
> Why bother with color jacks since whole eurorack is a mess!
> Power source - no specs at all, power cable - crap, power connector - 
> mistake, mounting screws - M3 or M2.5 or inch-something, various rail 
> types resulting in different srew lenght requirement, rails with or 
> without lip, mounting holes in if full HP or half-HP location, sliding 
> nuts - insanity, panel thickness and materials, from 1 to 5mm, and I 
> haven't even touched CV ranges, neither in/out impedances, this list 
> can go on and on.
> And anybody considering standarize jack colors? Gimme a break. How 
> about uniform font?
>
> Roman
>
> Dnia 20 października 2017 19:39 Quincas Moreira <quincas at gmail.com> 
> napisał(a):
>
>     I think I prefer the way Random Source does the Serge colour
>     coding in Euro, it goes on the panel rather than on the jack. just
>     a coloured circle around each jack. And keep it simple, just red,
>     black and blue, more becomes messy, IMo
>
>     Sent from my iPad
>
>         On Oct 20, 2017, at 11:41 AM, Vladimir Pantelic
>         <vladoman at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>         except for the Doepfer range, no other module I have uses
>         these right angle Cliff jacks. And I don't even know where to
>         buy the colored version from.
>         so unless I do full color print panels, I see not way to
>         implement this scheme even if I wanted.
>
>
>             On 10/20/2017 06:05 PM, Andre Majorel wrote:
>
>             http://www.elby-designs.com/webtek/panther/panther-jacks.htm
>             I think that it would make panels look like angry fruit salads
>             and that might be counter-productive. A quick way to tell
>             outputs from inputs would be nice, though. Something like the
>             Cwejman S1 but using brightness rather than hue. Eg white for
>             outputs, black for inputs.
>
>
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--Tim Ressel
Circuit Abbey
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