[sdiy] Pulsonix PCB design software
Pete Hartman
pete.hartman at gmail.com
Thu Jul 27 21:54:57 CEST 2017
Glad I'm not the only one :-D
Did that with Eagle, in the course of shuffling units. Didn't know how to
do it directly so I deleted and re-added as other units, not remembering
that I'd also flipped the +/- on the symbol....
On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 2:48 PM, Tom Wiltshire <tom at electricdruid.net>
wrote:
> One (unfortunate) side-effect of the Diptrace way of doing this is that
> you have to keep an eye on which way up you have the op-amps. I once
> screwed up a PCB layout by rearranging op-amps like this, but then failing
> to notice that I’d vertically flipped some of them (to get +ve and -ve
> input more convenient for the schematic). So I wired the right op-amps in
> the right places, but got completely the wrong wires connected up. Didn’t
> notice until the prototype PCB utterly failed to do what it was supposed
> to. I kicked myself for that one.
>
> But otherwise, I think it’s logical. You’ve got parts, you can move them
> about. Straightforward. You just have to be careful doing it.
>
> Tom
>
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> > On 27 Jul 2017, at 20:31, epk <electronicpresskit at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Ah, that's a great tip! I wish I would have discovered that. I emailed
> support and posted in the dt forum about this issue and got no reply :(
> >
> > Since wires are not anchored to the parts in kicad, you can just hover
> and hit m to move the part out of the way and the desired one in.
> Alternatively you can hover and hit e to edit the part via popup menu.
> >
> > epk
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 9:17 PM, Tom Wiltshire <tom at electricdruid.net>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > > On 27 Jul 2017, at 00:08, electronicpresskit <
> electronicpresskit at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > One thing that irked me was that the user can change the part number
> of a multi-part package, however the pin numbers don’t update to reflect
> the change. So the user must delete the part and create a new one. This
> would be less of a problem, except that the wires disappear so you need to
> remember all the connections. I like to optimize which opamp I use
> depending on adjacent components when placing parts on a board so it can
> really add some time and increases the chance of error.
> > >
> > > There are more, but my head has been out of dt for a while…see my
> comments about zoom and hotkeys below.
> >
> > If I’m understanding you, you’re taking about re-arranging op-amps to
> make the layout easier, right?
> >
> > This is something I do frequently too. The “Diptrace way” of doing this
> is to literally disconnect the op-amps and rearrange them, rather than
> changing the part numbers. It’s simple enough. If you want the first op-amp
> in a package doing a certain job, you disconnect the one that’s there
> (right click menu) and drop the other one in instead and then press
> “connect wires” in the right-click menu.
> >
> > Now, if I was trying to be all annoying about it, that’s one of those
> things that could be described as “user error”, but really it’s just down
> to the different ways and styles that these different packages use, and
> that people start to assume are “standard”. They’re not. There is no
> “standard”. It might be nice if there was, but it’s probably too
> complicated a problem for a single solution to ever make sense.
> >
> > Tom
> >
> >
>
>
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