[sdiy] Pulsonix PCB design software

[Julian Schmidt]

I don't want to argue here, just stating my experience ;)

Am 26.07.2017 um 13:22 schrieb Steve:
> Julian Schmidt wrote:
>
> > Most of what he describes are user errors
>
> Yeah. Conveniently by definition... that's relevant how?
by that argument you could also say you want the gas pedal in your car 
to be on the left side instead of right and the car should work how you 
want it to work. I'd say if you press the brake and expect the car to 
accelerate that is a user error.
> He argued how things should not work the way they do (I concur), 
> complaining about (lack of) design.
> (including the back-and-forth commenting under the 1st post)
> How is "he used it wrong" an answer to that?
It might be that in some programs you just drag an object to move it.
I don't see a problem in kicads way to move object by pointing the mouse 
over it and press the "m" key to move it.

if you want to move a component without breaking the wire you have to 
hold the "strg" key on the keyboard... or use "g" instead of "m"
> > or just don't happen in the build I use (zooming for example is 
> always mouse pointer centric).
> I tried it with the version which was most recent a couple days ago, 
> and uninstalled it again because of that - and reading that it's 
> known, longstanding and they don't care - which about tells me how 
> wise it is to sink any time into that package.
>
> > Ok, I'm using the linux version and take my version from the latest 
> build and not the old stable branch that is behind a lot of versions...
>
> So you're saying their "stable build" is the f'ed up one, and you're 
> supposed to use the betas?
> (with regards to outright bugs like hard-coded paths of the "it works 
> on my machine award" kind - do they test the stuff before unleashing it?)

No I just say I've been using it for the past 5 years, also for 
commercial projects, and like using it.
Never encountered a real show stopper.
I don't say it is perfect and I admit it still needs a lot of work in 
some areas, but I can perfectly work with the program.
I even think it is much better than for example LT Spice ;) and I much 
prefer it over eagle.
>
>
> *Von:* "Julian Schmidt" <elfenjunge at gmx.net>
> *An:* synth-diy at synth-diy.org
> *Betreff:* Re: [sdiy] Pulsonix PCB design software
> hmmm... been using kicad for a few years now.
> Most of what he describes are user errors or just don't happen in the 
> build I use (zooming for example is always mouse pointer centric).
> Ok, I'm using the linux version and take my version from the latest 
> build and not the old stable branch that is behind a lot of versions...
>
> I don't say it is perfect and for sure has some annoying behaviors, 
> but I really like working with it and I could not do any PCBs anymore 
> without "push and shove" and really like that it's currently getting a 
> spice integration.
> Am 25.07.2017 um 22:25 schrieb sleepy_dog at gmx.de:
>
>
>     > Kicad might be worth looking into. It's reliable, easy to work with
>
>     Reeeeally?
>     https://www.reddit.com/r/KiCad/comments/41n6c6/i_want_to_love_kicad/
>
>     If that's a good sampling of the GUI's typical "design" choices,
>     "braindead" (like the guy called it in the last post) seems an apt
>     label.
>     (alone that going back to center all the time when zooming,
>     warrants some HARD lashes on the butt)
>
>
>
>     Am 25.07.2017 um 21:21 schrieb Gordonjcp:
>
>         On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 07:37:37PM +0100,paula at synth.net  wrote:
>
>             I've heard nothing but good things about it.
>             I'm tempted to look into it some more as Eagle is getting a bit pricey.
>
>         Kicad might be worth looking into.  It's reliable, easy to work with,
>         doesn't lock your drawings up in proprietary file formats and you can't
>         argue with the price.
>
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