[sdiy] Logic Analyzers

[Jay Schwichtenberg]

The 7K stuff in its day was some of the best you could get. With the plugins you could configure it to what you wanted. To me the Tek 465 was the best product they made. I'd used one for years as a bench and field scope.

Hard part is once you've used a digital DPO/MSO/MDO 3K/4K it's hard to go back. Really nice to turn on measurements and get voltage and time measurements without counting divs and multiplying.

Now days I have dreams about the 5 Series MSO. Takes a bit to get use to the touch screen but having 8 channels on a big screen is sweet.

I had a Tek 564 storage scope that was tube based storage scope. That was probably built in the early 60s and was still running when I got rid of it a few years ago. All point to point wiring on terminal strips and silver solder.

Jay S.

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael E Caloroso [mailto:mec.forumreader at gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2017 10:36 PM
To: Jay Schwichtenberg
Cc: Michael Zacherl; SYNTH DIY
Subject: Re: [sdiy] Logic Analyzers

I love the old Tektronix 7xxx modular scopes.  One of their plugin
modules I have for my 7904 is the 7D01 logic analyzer with 7D02
formatter.  Yes they're only 16 bit with 1K of sample memory but it
has been enough for anything I have had to tackle.  The cool thing is
you can use the word recognizer to trigger the horizontal base,
allowing you to inspect an aperiodic signal in the analog domain.

Yes it's 1970s technology.  But Tektronix stuff back then are built like a tank.

MC

On 12/27/17, Jay Schwichtenberg <jschwich53 at comcast.net> wrote:
> I got the Saleae Logic 16 (not the plus) quite a while ago and it was
> inexpensive. It does not have an elaborate/state machine triggering but if
> you know how to use it, it is still a powerful tool.
>
> A lot of oscilloscopes have options to do various forms of bus decode too.
>
> I'm familiar with the Tektronix MSO/MDO scopes that have those options. But
> the Tek scopes are expensive and the EMBEDDED (I2C, SPI), SERIAL (what most
> people call RS232) and AUDIO (I2S, TDM) keys are expensive also. They do
> give decent LA functionality with limited state machines to do more complex
> triggering and deep sample buffers. If I had lots of money I'd go that route
> since I know those instruments and can use them in my sleep.
>
> You can get a cheap Chinese scope like the Rigols and unlock them to get
> access to their bus decode and triggering options. But if you do that you
> void the warranty.
>
> Jay S
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Synth-diy [mailto:synth-diy-bounces at synth-diy.org] On Behalf Of
> Michael Zacherl
> Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2017 6:23 PM
> To: SYNTH DIY
> Subject: [sdiy] Logic Analyzers
>
> In the not so distant future I’ll be probably in the market for a not too
> expensive logic analyser.
> Just browsed the Saleae site, looks good at the first glance.
> What’s too have? What’s too avoid, feature-wise?
> Thanks - m.
>
>> On 28 Dec 2017, at 01:10, Jay Schwichtenberg <jschwich53 at comcast.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Also having something like a cheap logic analyzer or scope that decodes
>> serial, I2C or SPI will save you a lot of time trying to track down bus
>> issues. I have an older saleae and that has saved my ass so many times
>> when
>> doing embedded stuff.
>
>
>
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