[sdiy] SSM chip reissue

Mike HEQX mike at heqx.com
Tue Apr 25 17:41:16 CEST 2017


Well said David. I have been asked to patent and copyright many things 
that I have created over the years, but having managed copyright and 
patent processing for other people I said " heck no". It seems the only 
remedy to being copied and exploited is really good marketing and taking 
the market early. I truly believe that if you make something cool and 
have good intentions and customer service you can make money. If you are 
a dirtbag and only exist off other people's effort then your name will 
only be synonymous with cheap and people won't look to you to innovate.

Mike


On 4/25/2017 3:09 AM, David G Dixon wrote:
> Copyright on a schematic is exactly that: the schematic, not the product it
> represents.
>
> There is nothing in an electronic design that can't be copied by a
> competitor unless it is covered by a patent, but patents are reserved for
> things which are novel and inventive, and they cost a lot of money, time and
> effort to get.  In fact, I can say with experience that getting patents is a
> very soul-sucking experience, and not for the faint of heart.  I should
> know, as I have about 7 of the damn things and they have been nothing but a
> source of grief -- I have never made a penny on any of them.  In fact, the
> only things I've ever "invented" and actually made money on are my synth
> module designs, and most of them are no great secret.
>
> If you make a successful product, then you are basically inviting your
> competition to copy you and undercut your price.  It happens all the time,
> in every sphere of business.
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Synth-diy [mailto:synth-diy-bounces at synth-diy.org] On
>> Behalf Of rsdio at audiobanshee.com
>> Sent: Monday, April 24, 2017 11:34 PM
>> To: synth-diy at synth-diy.org
>> Subject: Re: [sdiy] SSM chip reissue
>>
>>
>> On Apr 24, 2017, at 1:01 PM, Vladimir Pantelic
>> <vladoman at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 24.04.2017 21:15, Jay Schwichtenberg wrote:
>>>> You need to look up Behringer's history. They lost
>> lawsuits for coping Aphex (sp?) and Mackie equipment.
>>> Behringer only lost to Aphex and that was in or before
>> 1997, that's 20 years ago....
>>> the Mackie suit was dismissed:
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behringer#Legal_cases
>> It looks like Mackie lost because there isn't any law against
>> literally copying another company's schematic in a competing product.
>>
>> I don't know what the ethics are, but it sure makes it
>> difficult for an inventor to make repairs easy decades into
>> the future, without also making it easy for a competitor to
>> skip all the R&D costs and undercut the price.
>>
>> I suppose if there is a patent on technology in the
>> schematic, like Moog's ladder filter, then that's a different
>> story from hoping to copyright the schematic of a complete product.
>>
>> Brian Willoughby
>>
>>
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