[sdiy] SSM chip reissue

[Cooper Sloan]

My understanding is Mr. Schreiber found a box of 20,000k 3340s in Curtis'
garage and he kinda just shrugged since they couldn't be sold  for tax
reasons, hence MOTM. He must have had some good reasons for the reluctance
to reissue.

On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 12:24 PM Tom Wiltshire <tom at electricdruid.net>
wrote:

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> On 24 Apr 2017, at 19:49, David G Dixon <dixon at mail.ubc.ca> wrote:
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> >> I'll guess that some people/companies may opt to avoid buying
> >> Vxxxx ones.
> >> Considering this I am more than happy that the "real guys"
> >> are back in the game.
> >> Gert
> >
> > Well, when the "real guys" stop producing the chips, what are you
> supposed
> > to do?  Just stop making and selling all of your designs?  How "ethical"
> is
> > it to stop making a chip that many other companies need for their own
> > production?  We've used tens of thousands of V2164 chips, and will
> continue
> > to do so as long as Coolaudio is the only viable producer.
> >
> > The thing is, all this crap is made in China, whether it's Coolaudio or
> > Diodes Incorporated or Analog Devices.  So, given that, why is it
> "ethical"
> > for AD to charge $7 per chip when Coolaudio can obviously turn a nice
> profit
> > at $2 per chip working in the same labour market?  And why should I be
> > expected to pay 3 or 4 times as much for the same product when that
> product
> > is no longer under patent protection (if it ever was)?  This seems to me
> to
> > be taking advantage of ones sense of ethics, which in itself is
> unethical.
> > I've always thought that AD were a bunch of ripoff artists.  Thank
> goodness
> > for companies like Coolaudio and Vishay.  Without them, modular synths
> would
> > be much more expensive.
> >
> > At this stage, Coolaudio has earned a certain brand loyalty for this
> > product, which they have consistently delivered to a high standard of
> > quality at a reasonable price.  These new old guys are going to have to
> earn
> > it, as far as I'm concerned.
>
> I agree with the gist of what David's saying. When other manufacturers
> were busy dumping what they saw as unprofitable lines (Yeah, *thanks*
> AD!!), CoolAudio picked them up and started making them into something
> commercially viable. Nothing Coolaudio make is protected by any kind of
> patent any longer, so this is publicly available stuff which is out there
> if you want to have a go - nothing unethical about that. The difference is
> that they committed the money to do it at reasonable scale and thereby
> bring the cost down to a point at which it became a viable business. Now
> that they've proved that it's possible and worthwhile, what I see is a lot
> of *other* people trying to jump in and grab a slice of the action, off the
> back of investments they didn't make.
>
> Would Curtis/SSM have bothered starting up again, if CoolAudio and others
> hadn't shown there was still a demand for this stuff? I seriously doubt it.
>
> The exciting bit of this announcement is that it might be an "improved"
> version of the 2164. If some of these teams start pushing the designs into
> the 21st century, we could be in for some really good stuff.
>
> We're soon going to be in a world where we have a wide variety of analog
> synth ICs to play with and some of them second-sourced, even. That's hasn't
> happened since I was a teenager! Wow! These are amazing times to be
> building synths!
>
> Tom
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