[sdiy] Spare op-amp useful in gain stage?
Tom Wiltshire
tom at electricdruid.net
Thu Jan 28 19:41:38 CET 2016
Plus the second amp is going to be amplifying the noise from the first. Is that better or worse than having one op-amp with very high-gain amplifying it's own noise?
On 28 Jan 2016, at 17:37, Quincas Moreira <quincas at gmail.com> wrote:
> I would expect signal to noise ratio to be worse, but distortion to be
> less using Roman's two opamp idea. Probably not by much, but each
> opamp stage would add a tiny bit of noise... Am I wrong? I usually
> go this route when I need high gain, two stages....
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> On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 7:43 AM, Michael Zacherl
> <sdiy-mz01 at blauwurf.info> wrote:
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>> On 28.Jan 2016, at 13:36 , Roman Sowa <modular at go2.pl> wrote:
>>
>>> In high gain application it's better to split to 2 opamps, this way you get much higher bandwidth than when done on single opamp.
>>> For example if 60dB gain on one opamp would have 3dB bandwidth ending at about 10kHz, while 30+30dB on 2 opamps of the same kind it jumps over 300kHz.
>>
>> hm .. so what’s the impact on the SNR?
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>>> W dniu 2016-01-28 o 13:03, Mattias Rickardsson pisze:
>>>> Hi!
>>>>
>>>> I was in a discussion about what to do with a spare OP-amp. These
>>>> fellows come in duals and quads, and sometimes the quantities don't
>>>> end up perfectly and you stand there with an extra unused op-amp.
>>>>
>>>> Is there any clever way of using two op-amps instead of one in, say, a
>>>> noisy high-gain stage in order to reach lower noise or something like
>>>> that?
>>>>
>>>> Douglas Self's small signal book suggests paralleling two gain stages
>>>> ("multipath amplifiers"), having their outputs tied together with 10
>>>> ohms to the destination, winning 3 dB SNR. Are there other clever ways
>>>> of using a spare op-amp, particularly in a stage with high gain?
>>
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