[sdiy] VCO - sine output - why bother?
Ian Fritz
ijfritz at comcast.net
Tue Aug 30 20:45:21 CEST 2016
Matthew --
Thanks for posting. Your comments are right on.
I was trying to emphasize more the approach to the analysis than the
classification. Of course the COTA oscillator can be looked at as a
limit cycle oscillator, ie by writing down the differential equations in
phase space and looking for stable periodic solutions. It's just that
it isn't normally done that way. Three of the equations would represent
the three free integrators and the fourth would additionally include the
feedback and nonlinear limiting. The limiting could be approximated by
an appropriate function -- not necessarily simple -- and computer code
could crank out the solutions numerically.
My approach was based on the material in the "Cyclic Chaos System"
section of my website. This work is an implementation of work by Rene
Thomas and coworkers (C. R. Biologics 326, p. 205 (2003), and Chaos 14
(3), p. 669 (2004)). The multiphase oscillator is a slightly simplified
version of this, using fixed damping on each stage and just a single
nonlinearity. What's different from the COTA approach is that each stage
has damping. That damping is chosen so that, without the clamping, the
system diverges weakly. Thus, only weak clamping is needed, resulting
in pure sinusoids.
My third order filter (the Threeler) is set up to produce a variety of
limit-cycle and chaotic oscillations in addition to the more standard
filtering functions. Demos at my you tube channel.
Ian
On 8/29/2016 10:01 PM, mskala at ansuz.sooke.bc.ca wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Aug 2016, Ian Fritz wrote:
>> Yes, that's why I abandoned the COTA approach in favor of the limit-cycle
>> approach. For the four-stage version, the waves are all the same amplitude,
>
> Where can I find more information about this "limit cycle approach"? I
> did some Google searching and all I found was academic literature from
> chaos theory, where the term seems to refer to any dynamical system whose
> behaviour converges on some kind of cycle. There's a more precise
> mathematical definition, but it doesn't seem useful: my reading of it is
> that almost any electronic oscillator could be called a "limit cycle"
> oscillator, and there'd be no specific reason for that to give especially
> pure sine waves unless the oscillator happens to be designed so that the
> limit cycle is a pure sine wave, which is begging the question.
>
> The specific design of your own that you're pointing to seems to differ
> from other oscillators in that it's applying gentle limiting at all
> amplitudes increasing slowly with greater amplitude instead of harder
> limiting almost zero at low amplitude and increasing quickly at high
> amplitude, and it applies the limiting at all stages instead of just one.
> Are those the important features of the "limit cycle approach"?
>
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