[sdiy] Which solder is safer for home projects ?

Fri Oct 23 19:24:41 CEST 2015

Kester makes a smoke absorbing fan with a charcoal filter--reduces the
odor to nil. Replace the filter once in a great while.

Lead is a soft metal and you have to assume that some of it rubs off on
your hands. If you then smoke, eat or rub your face then some transfer
will happen. It's hard to say what effect this will have but it's best to
take no chances. There are too many toxins in our environment already.
This is one exposure that you can avoid. Wash your hands, THEN have that
cig or food break.

Went camping once with a couple cig smoking friends. The mosquitoes came
out and the DEET was applied. They resumed smoking only to start spitting
repeatedly as they were smoking the DEET on their hands that had
transferred to the cig!

I think the smoke may be a more obvious irritant--see the fan above.

> <html><body><span style="font-family:Verdana; color:#000000;
> font-size:10pt;"><div>Dementia seems like the least of my problems, aside
> from that pesky jury trial coming up!</div><div><br></div><div>But in all
> seriousness, I can feel the immediate effects of smoking while soldering
> in the several days following. I can't deny the possibility that it is a
> big part of my neurological disorder, though I have had many head injuries
> in my life (starting when I has an infant) as well. As a reference, I have
> used many different kinds of solder including lead free, and have had
> negative immediate effects throughout all of
> them.</div><div><br></div><div>The bathroom fan with ducting seems to be a
> great simple solution, and I should probably do that. Then stop ingesting
> solder on my smokes!<br><br></div>
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> -------- Original Message --------<br>
> Subject: Re: [sdiy] Which solder is safer for home projects ?<br>
> From: Dan Snazelle <<a
> href="mailto:subjectivity at hotmail.com">subjectivity at hotmail.com</a>><br>
> Date: Fri, October 23, 2015 11:30 am<br>
> To: <a
> href="mailto:spivkurl at wearerecords.com">spivkurl at wearerecords.com</a><br>
> Cc: "<a href="mailto:info at oldeblock.com">info at oldeblock.com</a>" <<a
> href="mailto:info at oldeblock.com">info at oldeblock.com</a>>, Tom Bugs<br>
> <<a href="mailto:admin at bugbrand.co.uk">admin at bugbrand.co.uk</a>>, <a
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> <br>
> <div>I agree </div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div
> id="AppleMailSignature">Exactly why I asked </div><div
> id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">Last thing
> I want is dementia !!</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div
> id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div
> id="AppleMailSignature">Thnx <br><br>Sent from my
> iPhone</div><div><br>On Oct 23, 2015, at 12:23 PM, <a target="_blank"
> href="mailto:spivkurl at wearerecords.com">spivkurl at wearerecords.com</a>
> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite" style="border-left: blue 2px
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> style="font-family:Verdana; color:#000000; font-size:10pt;"><div>Tom is
> correct here. I never had true grand mal seizures until I had several
> years of soldering under my belt. I am known to smoke cigarettes in
> between connections, and would not recommend the practice (though I still
> do it!). I'm also not concluding that there is a direct connection, but be
> safe any way!<br></div> <blockquote id="replyBlockquote" webmail="1"
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> id="wmQuoteWrapper"> -------- Original Message --------<br> Subject: Re:
> [sdiy] Which solder is safer for home projects ?<br> From: "<a
> target="_blank" href="mailto:info at oldeblock.com">info at oldeblock.com</a>"
> <<a target="_blank"
> href="mailto:info at oldeblock.com">info at oldeblock.com</a>><br> Date: Fri,
> October 23, 2015 11:11 am<br> To: Tom Bugs <<a target="_blank"
> href="mailto:admin at bugbrand.co.uk">admin at bugbrand.co.uk</a>><br> Cc: <a
> target="_blank"
> href="mailto:synth-diy at dropmix.xs4all.nl">synth-diy at dropmix.xs4all.nl</a><br>
> <br> Just because someone is lucky enough to never have noticed effect
> from exposure doesn't mean you shouldn't take precautions. The effects of
> neurotoxins aren't always apparent and accumulate over long periods.
> Things like dementia/Alzheimer's are known to have links to metal and
> toxic vapor exposure. Let's not rule out genetic pre-disposition either.
> So why take a risk? Make sure your work area is well ventilated regardless
> of what product you use.<br> <br> I use a cheap bathroom fan with some 5$
> coil ducting to pull the fumes out to a window and I must say my soldering
> work is much more pleasant than it used to be!<br> <br> Sent from my
> iPhone<br> <br> > On Oct 23, 2015, at 7:29 AM, Tom Bugs <<a
> target="_blank"
> href="mailto:admin at bugbrand.co.uk">admin at bugbrand.co.uk</a>> wrote:<br>
> > <br> > Personally - Warton Metals Omega II Fast Flow 2% Flux
> Lead/Rosin Free Solder<br> > (not sure if available in US - I get here:
> <a target="_blank"
> href="http://www.rapidonline.com/Tools-Equipment/Warton-Metals-Omega-II-Fast-Flow-2-Flux-Lead-Rosin-Free-Solder-22SWG-500g-85-6196)">http://www.rapidonline.com/Tools-Equipment/Warton-Metals-Omega-II-Fast-Flow-2-Flux-Lead-Rosin-Free-Solder-22SWG-500g-85-6196)</a><br>
> > <br> > Lead-free -- I have always used lead free solder (apart
> from old repairs), partly as it is required under RoHS legislation (can of
> worms about to be opened, no doubt).<br> > As to lead poisoning, I
> always thought that if you handled leaded solder you should wash your
> hands before eating/smoking etc.<br> > This Warton one flows very
> nicely at a normal soldering temperature (in comparison to the usual
> requirement of lead-free needing higher temps than leaded)<br> > <br>
> > Flux -- yes, that's the nasty stuff you'll breathe in - this one has
> 'nicer' flux, not based on pine oils, so meant to reduce the chance of
> asthma<br> > <br> > NoClean -- as it say, don't try to clean it!
> Without a lot of work you'll just end up with sticky gunk everywhere (even
> if you use, for example, Warton's specially formulated stuff for their own
> solder, then try further with IPA [the cleaning alcohol, not the beer!]).
> There is rarely any need to worry about cleaning in a non-production
> environment.<br> > <br> > <br> > Frankly, I wish people (US in
> particular) would finally get on board with lead-free - it is not f'ing
> scary.. It is annoying to get kits that are non-RoHS in this day &
> age. Many PCB houses are now making RoHS boards as standard and most
> components are RoHS as standard too (otherwise they'd miss out on a chunk
> of the market). Sure, a small guy can easily fly below the official RoHS
> radar, but that's not really the point.<br> > <br> >> On
> 23/10/2015 14:09, Michael Zacherl wrote:<br> >>> On 23.Oct 2015,
> at 14:50 , Roman Sowa <<a target="_blank"
> href="mailto:modular at go2.pl">modular at go2.pl</a>> wrote:<br>
> >>> <br> >>> Use no clean flux, avoid water soluble
> ones.<br> >> is there no cleaning at all with "no clean" solder or
> do you use e.g. isopropanol to rub off the board?<br> >> <br>
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