[sdiy] Cloud or not cloud... That's the question..

[Pete Hartman]

One doesn't have to be "anti-cloud" to have a reasonable understanding of
your expectations when the data isn't physically under your control.

Many moons ago, when there were more fly-by-night ISPs, I had signed up
with one.  I moved all my personal files from my university system (the job
I'd just left) to the ISP.

There was a clause in the contract about "we are not responsible for
backups" which I took to mean "we can't guarantee that we will ever recover
your data" not "we don't do backups".  As a sysadmin, my expectation was
that all responsible admins took backups, but I could understand serving
many customers you wouldn't want to have to constantly be recovering Joe
Schmoe's file he just screwed up by accident.  A reasonable clause to
forestall unreasonable demands, right?

Then they dropped a screwdriver into the hard drive.  Their responsibility,
but since the contract really meant "we don't do backups" my data was gone.

So as noted: don't put all your data in one basket.  I think it's also
reasonable to pay close attention to the providers' security policies and
any security surprises they may encounter, and keep sensitive data out of
the cloud -- too many companies you'd have otherwise expected to have good
data security have been hacked in the last several years.

Thanks

Pete





On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 2:24 PM, john slee <indigoid at oldcorollas.org> wrote:

> I use Apple's iCloud to share some stuff between my MacBooks, and
> GitHub (and now also Amazon CodeCommit) for storing code.
>
> For backups I have a Time Capsule — I'm way too disorganised to
> remember to manually backup to external drives, so that would be an an
> awful choice for me.
>
> I work with Amazon AWS all day for my employer, so I'm fairly
> comfortable with it. I don't buy the anti-cloud hysteria.
>
> John
>
> On 16 October 2015 at 00:15, Jean-Pierre Desrochers <jpdesroc at oricom.ca>
> wrote:
> > Just to open up a discussion here on
> > a topic very discutable...
> > Do you guys trust to put your very precious data
> > on a 'somewhere on the web' server like the Cloud
> > or DropBox ? Someone told me yesterday that
> > NASA and FBI put there private data on the web
> > and not on their own disks like we all do (did ?)
> > And that was VERY secure for them to do so..
> > Hmmmm...
> >
> > JP
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