[sdiy] Coolaudio VCAs: V2162 noisier than V2164?

Chris Juried cjuried at yahoo.com
Mon Dec 21 18:21:04 CET 2015


Dave,
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      From: Dave Magnuson <abide at dmdrafting.com>
 To: 'Chris Juried' <cjuried at yahoo.com>; 'Mattias Rickardsson' <mr at analogue.org>; 'synthdiy diy' <synth-diy at dropmix.xs4all.nl> 
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Subject: Re: [sdiy] Coolaudio VCAs: V2162 noisier than V2164?  Hi Mattias,  What instrument(s) are you using for you SNR measurements?  Sincerely,   
  Chris Juried  
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To: synthdiy diy <synth-diy at dropmix.xs4all.nl> 
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2015 10:21 AM
Subject: [sdiy] Coolaudio VCAs: V2162 noisier than V2164?
Hi there VCA lovers,

I've done some measurements of SNR & THD of the 2164 and 2162 VCA ICs
from Coolaudio, and I'm very surprised with the noise results I'm
getting. With the 2162 I cannot reach a SNR over 95 dB before
clipping, at any gain. With the 2164 at gain=1 I reach 120 dB SNR.
That's a huge difference!

When trimmed properly the 2162 does have slightly better THD, but the
noise seems to always be there in the background. I hope my
measurements are correct... the "-97 dBV" noise spec in the V2164
datasheet seems a bit odd to me compared to the "-94 dBu" in the V2164
dataheet - or I've misunderstood them.

Has anyone else tried the 2162 (either from THAT or from Coolaudio)
and compared it to the 2164 or other VCAs?

/mr
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