[sdiy] Squabbling (was Re: [WTB] IR3R01 in UK)

[Jack Jackson]

Hi Terry,

It's an analogue envelope generator(ADSR) chip produced by Roland between about 1980 and 1989. It was used in the Jupiter 8, Juno 60, MKS7 etc.

Roland part number is : 15229807
Name is : IR3R01
Package is: 16 pin DIP





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> From: thx1138 at earthlink.net
> Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2013 08:06:09 -0700
> To: pete.hartman at gmail.com
> CC: synth-diy at dropmix.xs4all.nl
> Subject: Re: [sdiy] Squabbling (was Re: [WTB] IR3R01 in UK)
>
> Hi all,
>
> Could someone send me bit of info on the IR3R01 device so that I can check to see if I have this over at my office?
>
> I usually have some Roland parts in bins in my warehouse, btw, my Guitarist I jam with works at Roland Service Center in City Of Commerce and he has been able to get me Roland parts if I need them.
>
> best regards,
>
> Terry Shultz
> thx1138 at earthlink.net
> On Oct 4, 2013, at 6:20 AM, Pete Hartman <pete.hartman at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 1:41 AM, cheater00 . <cheater00 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Say if someone stole something expensive from you, and we were all sitting
>>> at a table at a diner talking synths. The thief shows up, sits at our table,
>>> and chimes in on the topic of conversation. Everyone knows what he has done.
>>> Now let's say your advice is followed, no one even mentions the theft,
>>> including you. We are all cheery and so on. You pass him the salt when asked
>>> for it, with a smile. Is this kind of bizzarro world what you expect this
>>> list to become?
>>
>> I didn't smile, welcome, or pass salt to LoS. I did not even respond
>> to his direct comments in my thread about the XP-50, and I don't think
>> anyone else did either.
>>
>> What's happening is more like if Bob was at the table, and LoS walked
>> up and Bob got up and got in in face and acted like that one drunk guy
>> at the bar who's always picking a fight.
>>
>> The first time, maybe I'd give Bob a pass--having someone steal from
>> you sucks, after all, and I get that.
>>
>> The second time I might pull Bob aside and try to privately suggest he
>> find a better way to deal with it. In fact that is what I did,
>> off-list. He was having none of it, and I let it drop.
>>
>> By the third time I might ask him in public to find a better way to
>> deal with his grievance.
>>
>> In the real world, if I got up in people's faces every time I was
>> angry about some wrong that had been done to me, I'd be in jail.
>>
>> Everything is not black and white, and the (fairly mild) criticism of
>> Bob's behavior is not condoning the thief and passing him salt and
>> smiling--that's ridiculous and wrong.
>>
>>
>>
>>> One could also see it the following way: every post by a scammer (be it Lab of Sound or not) raises the noise floor. And trying to fix this issue is more>than correct.
>>
>> I agree with you about the noise floor, but we all know there are
>> multiple sources of noise, and none of them help the signal.
>>
>> I'm all for Bob trying to fix the issue. Being obnoxious is not the only way.
>>
>> Here's an idea: instead of attacking and being "in his face" how
>> about one time in every thread where LoS pops up, write a calm "this
>> guy has stolen from me, if you want the details, go see my link".
>> Obviously LoS isn't going to respond directly to Bob, so there's no
>> point in trying to get a reaction--just provide the public service
>> announcement so we're all aware.
>>
>> See, that's not "no one say anything"....it gets the message out and
>> doesn't make Bob seem like an obnoxious jerk. I don't think it does
>> anything significant to the noise floor either.
>>
>> I also think the rest of us can make it clear, without even having to
>> talk directly to LoS, that he's not welcome until he can resolve this
>> dispute with Bob. I certainly plan not to respond to anything he
>> posts from here out. Bob alerting any newbies, and the rest of us
>> ignoring him seems like a civil AND direct way to fix the issue. What
>> will he have to gain by being here then?
>>
>>
>> But as I write I see Bob has come to his own conclusions on the
>> matter. I'm still sending this, because I won't stand for accusations
>> that I'm supporting the thief. And my suggestion of a different way
>> to confront LoS stands as well. Hopefully we can get back to talking
>> about synths now :-).
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