[sdiy] Squabbling (was Re: [WTB] IR3R01 in UK)

[Terry Shultz]

Hi all,

Could someone send me bit of info on the IR3R01 device so that I can check to see if I have this over at my office?

I usually have some Roland parts in bins in my warehouse, btw, my Guitarist I jam with works at Roland Service Center in City Of Commerce and he has been able to get me Roland parts if I need them.

best regards,

Terry Shultz
thx1138 at earthlink.net
On Oct 4, 2013, at 6:20 AM, Pete Hartman <pete.hartman at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 1:41 AM, cheater00 . <cheater00 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Say if someone stole something expensive from you, and we were all sitting
>> at a table at a diner talking synths. The thief shows up, sits at our table,
>> and chimes in on the topic of conversation. Everyone knows what he has done.
>> Now let's say your advice is followed, no one even mentions the theft,
>> including you. We are all cheery and so on. You pass him the salt when asked
>> for it, with a smile. Is this kind of bizzarro world what you expect this
>> list to become?
> 
> I didn't smile, welcome, or pass salt to LoS.  I did not even respond
> to his direct comments in my thread about the XP-50, and I don't think
> anyone else did either.
> 
> What's happening is more like if Bob was at the table, and LoS walked
> up and Bob got up and got in in face and acted like that one drunk guy
> at the bar who's always picking a fight.
> 
> The first time, maybe I'd give Bob a pass--having someone steal from
> you sucks, after all, and I get that.
> 
> The second time I might pull Bob aside and try to privately suggest he
> find a better way to deal with it.  In fact that is what I did,
> off-list.  He was having none of it, and I let it drop.
> 
> By the third time I might ask him in public to find a better way to
> deal with his grievance.
> 
> In the real world, if I got up in people's faces every time I was
> angry about some wrong that had been done to me, I'd be in jail.
> 
> Everything is not black and white, and the (fairly mild) criticism of
> Bob's behavior is not condoning the thief and passing him salt and
> smiling--that's ridiculous and wrong.
> 
> 
> 
>> One could also see it the following way: every post by a scammer (be it Lab of Sound or not) raises the noise floor. And trying to fix this issue is more >than correct.
> 
> I agree with you about the noise floor, but we all know there are
> multiple sources of noise, and none of them help the signal.
> 
> I'm all for Bob trying to fix the issue.  Being obnoxious is not the only way.
> 
> Here's an idea:  instead of attacking and being "in his face" how
> about one time in every thread where LoS pops up, write a calm "this
> guy has stolen from me, if you want the details, go see my link".
> Obviously LoS isn't going to respond directly to Bob, so there's no
> point in trying to get a reaction--just provide the public service
> announcement so we're all aware.
> 
> See, that's not "no one say anything"....it gets the message out and
> doesn't make Bob seem like an obnoxious jerk.  I don't think it does
> anything significant to the noise floor either.
> 
> I also think the rest of us can make it clear, without even having to
> talk directly to LoS, that he's not welcome until he can resolve this
> dispute with Bob.  I certainly plan not to respond to anything he
> posts from here out.  Bob alerting any newbies, and the rest of us
> ignoring him seems like a civil AND direct way to fix the issue.  What
> will he have to gain by being here then?
> 
> 
> But as I write I see Bob has come to his own conclusions on the
> matter.  I'm still sending this, because I won't stand for accusations
> that I'm supporting the thief.  And my suggestion of a different way
> to confront LoS stands as well.  Hopefully we can get back to talking
> about synths now :-).
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