[sdiy] VCO Jitter, Slop ... (was: Re: Smith's Evolver Desktop's spikey VCO waveforms)
David G Dixon
dixon at mail.ubc.ca
Mon Jun 10 21:49:42 CEST 2013
I'm going to go just a little bit further than Andre and state that I think
all this talk of VCO jitter is complete bullshit, unless someone can prove
otherwise with soundclips and scopeshots.
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> [mailto:synth-diy-bounces at dropmix.xs4all.nl] On Behalf Of
> Andre Majorel
> Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 9:57 AM
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> Subject: Re: [sdiy] VCO Jitter, Slop ... (was: Re: Smith's
> Evolver Desktop's spikey VCO waveforms)
> On 2013-06-09 03:00 +0200, Michael Zacherl wrote:
> > On 9.6.2013, at 00:11 , Andre Majorel wrote:
> > >> VCOs suck. That's why they're interesting.
> > >
> > > I can't prove it but I'm pretty sure it's their jitter that makes
> > > VCOs interesting, more than their waveforms. For human ears, all
> > > waveforms are equally boring if perfectly periodic.
> > if you had to put it into numbers, what would be the amount
> of jitter,
> > you think?
> Hi Michael. Don't know. I experimented with modulating the
> frequency of an MS-20 VCO with white and pink noise. As the
> FM sensitivity knob was turned clockwise, it went from no
> audible effect to unpleasantly warbly. I couldn't find a
> setting that made it sound "even fatter" or anything like that.
> My guess is that there is a rather narrow range of jitter
> between "sterile and brittle" and "blurry and weak" and by a
> happy accident, the state of electronics in the sixties and
> seventies led to VCOs which fell right in the middle.
> Recently read a very interesting bit about how much mains
> frequency ripple there is on power rails inside synths. Wish
> I could remember where and who.
> Some years ago, Scott Gravenhorst posted here an MP3 of one
> of his digital synth projects. I thought it sounded
> surprisingly good (i.e. not DCO-like). He said he used a
> small amount of pink noise FM on the oscillators. Maybe he
> could tell us more.
> > et al ... and, in general, something like a slop parameter on DSI
> > synths for their oscillators, is that just for the
> frequency and how
> > much? Never had a play with it.
> Since you can hear the difference between VCO and DCO on a
> single note, I don't see how temperature drift & scaling
> errors could be the source of "fatness". They may contribute
> to it, but they're not the essential ingredient.
> André Majorel http://www.teaser.fr/~amajorel/
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