[sdiy] Wanted: non mathematical description of the functionof RC-filters
rburnett at richieburnett.co.uk
rburnett at richieburnett.co.uk
Sat Aug 10 22:42:59 CEST 2013
I like Tom's intuitive and non-mathematical RC filter explanation.
It's worth noting that the circuits for the 1st-order RC low-pass and
1st-order RC high-pass are actually the same. The only difference is
where you take the output from. Take the output from across the
capacitor and you get low-pass filter action. Conversely, take the
output from across the resistor and you get high-pass action. (Add the
two together and you get back to the complete input signal again.)
Another way of looking at this is to say that the high-pass output is
equal to the difference between the original input and the low-pass
output. I think that's quite intuitive:- If you remove all the
high-frequencies from a signal by low-pass filtering it, then the
difference from the original input is the high-frequencies that you just
removed! (This is only guaranteed to work for 1st-order filters
though!)
To electrical engineers the 1st-order lowpass and highpass filter
transfer functions are:
LP = 1/(s+1)
HP = s/(s+1)
and you can show that: HP = 1 - LP
...but that would be maths!!! ;-)
-Richie,
PS. You can also get from the low-pass transfer function to the
high-pass transfer function by differentiating once, because
differentiation "tilts" the low-pass frequency response by +6dB/oct
turning it into the highpass filter response. That's where the
additional 's' in the numerator of the HP filter equation comes from.
On 2013-08-09 20:01, Tom Wiltshire wrote:
> Before I understood RC filters, I'd seen a capacitor charging up
> through a resistor. A capacitor is like a little battery, and the
> resistor changes how fast you charge it up. Smaller resistor equals
> faster charge. Pretty straightforward, especially if you can watch it
> on a scope or a voltmeter. Do a few experiments, try a few different
> caps and resistors, get a feel for it. Discharging a capacitor is
> similar. Short it with a wire and it discharges pretty much instantly.
> Use a big resistor and it takes a while. Watch that on the meter too.
>
> The next step is feeding frequencies through it. Imagine we feed a
> sine wave in where we previous used DC. Obviously if the resistor is
> large, the capacitor won't have had time to charge up fully before the
> sine wave starts going back down again. So the output tries to follow
> the sine wave, but the amplitude of the sine wave is reduced. If the
> resistor is bigger, the capacitor charges less, and the output is
> quieter. If the frequency goes up, the capacitor doesn't have as much
> time to charge, so the output is quieter. By now you get the idea.
>
> That was how I got it at first. Highpass took me a bit longer, but
> once I'd seen the lowpass, it wasn't hard to see it the same way, but
> with the voltage divider the other way up. But for high pass, you need
> the voltage divider concept too, which I didn't have initially.
>
> There, that wasn't too bad, was it?
>
> I was probably twelve years old or so, and didn't have (or need) any
> mathematical understanding of it.
>
> HTH,
> Tom
>
>
>
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