[sdiy] Old unique VCO - T?==?windows-1256?Q?une drifting problem - adapting a servo c?==?windows-1256?Q?onversionþ

ChristianH chris at chrismusic.de
Mon May 14 13:37:46 CEST 2012


On Fri, 11 May 2012 14:49:21 +0000 Gergo Palatinszky <Gergo_Palatinszky at epam.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> What about using a 3046(3086) and use one of the spare transistor inside as heater ... ASM-2 did this way if I'm right ....
> 
> Br,
>          Pala


The Doepfer MS-404 did it too: http://www.doepfer.de/ms404_sm.htm
(O2 below the expo pair/glide is the heater regulator)

Chris



> -----Original Message-----
> From: synth-diy-bounces at dropmix.xs4all.nl [mailto:synth-diy-bounces at dropmix.xs4all.nl] On Behalf Of rtarcan
> Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 4:42 PM
> To: synth-diy at dropmix.xs4all.nl
> Subject: Re: [sdiy] Old unique VCO - T?==?windows-1256?Q?une drifting problem - adapting a servo c?==?windows-1256?Q?onversionþ
> 
> The tempco resistor only compansates VT parameter of transistor but not IEBS of transistors( Emetor -Bas saturation current of transistors) witch drifts too much with ambient temperature. But heating the transistors as used in uA726 compansates both...
> On 11.05.2012 16:03, Idris El Kasri wrote:
> >    Hi everybody!
> >
> > I got an old modular synth from the 70's that was previously owned by Brendon Pollard, and previously (the legend says) by Jethro Tull, here's a pic :
> > http://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/files/elvis_big_351.jpg
> >
> >    The VCOs are totally incredible, I'd say comparable to Jurgen Haible's Living VCOs and maybe even fatter (without any kind of disrespect of the giant J.Haible's memory).. Some UA726 unfortunately passed away, Y.Usson kindely advised me to replace them by a tempco and a lm394/or ssm2210 (mat02 etc...)...
> >
> >    The problem is that the tune drifts a lot!
> > For example, I tune it on a C2, 20s later it becomes à B2 then a A#2 etc etc during maybe 1h or more then it would becomes higher and higher... big problem!
> >
> >    Yves advised me to check conversion's capacitor (to put a low t° drift capacitor) and power supply's stability, which I did and the problem remains; he said that considering that there was no servo conversion on this old VCOs from the beginning of the 70s (having a look at the dates on the AOPs) I shoudn't hope very good stability...
> >
> >    Here is the schematic of the VCO :
> > http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/646/vco2shematic.jpg
> >
> >     I didn't found much documentation on the "servo conversion"...
> >
> > Somebody could advise me some things to try to adapt a servo conversion on this VCOs? I m really lost...
> >
> > I'm sure that if we can fix that pbm we could really have here some really wild VCOs...
> >
> >
> >
> >    Cheers.    		 	   		   		 	   		   		 	   		




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