[sdiy] You had it lucky... was Raspberry pi(e)

[Harry Bissell]

for you old timers out there... remember the "you were lucky" thread of yore...
(reprinted here)

The "memories" thread 4/5/00 - 4/7/00 

So if you start like I did, a broke teenager who wants to 
build some synth modules, you'll have a much easier 
time today than in 1970. I could not get perf board, 
so my first synthesizer was made on unperforated 
phenolic board, and the component holes drilled one 
at a time for each component. Suffice to say, things 
are a lot better today. 
-Grant Richter 

For me it was 10 years later (around 1980), but "broke teenager" 
would be a perfect description as well. 

CA3080 ? Too expensive. Started to explore discrete transistors 
(often unsoldered from broken HiFi stuff) for VCAs instead. 

Veroboard was unreachable for me as well. I made my first 
PCBs with thick enamel paint and a tiny brush on the raw copper, 
and got the right chemicals somewhere to etch the boards. 
(After getting *very bad* results with nitric acid - which I 
stupidly thought the only acid to bite copper (;->) ) 

And then I remember I had the whole layout in mirror image 
rather than right. Helped myself by bending all the opamp's 
pins upward and soldering the ICs in bottom up. (Ouuuch - not 
recommended !) 

Those were the times in a little German town without a proper 
electronics shop ... 
- Juergen Haible. 

Awww, you kids were spoiled.... back in MY day, we didn't even have 
solder 
-- had to melt two components together over an open fire. 
Tools? WE couldn't afford tools; had to bite pieces of metal with our 
teeth. And WIRE??? WE had to stretch our OWN wire from old bits of junk 

copper..... 
- Greg Montalbano 

YOU HAD WIRE? YOU WERE LUCKY! I HAD TO MAKE SYNTH MODULES FROM INSIDE A 

HOLE IN THE ROAD, DODGING TRUCKS AND CRAZY MOTORCYCLISTS WHILE TRYING TO 

MOVE THE ELECTRONS AROUND WITH A STICK. 
-Rory Mc Donald 

...and we had to make ring modulators with 
cat's whisker rectifiers. You just try to 
get 4 cats to hold still while you 
trim them out. 
Sorry, 
-Toby Paddock 

Ha! At least you didn't have to smelt your metals in a 
furnace hand made from clay you gathered yourself, using 
ore that you mined yourself with bare hands from the base 
of cliffs, and wood and coal that you 
gathered/mined/split/ignited with your bare hands like I 
had to. And that was before I developed opposable thumbs on 
my hands! ;-) 
-Doug Tymofichuk 

Ha! Well at least YOU had hands! We only had our amoebic appendages 
with which to try to move things with! In fact, we had to spend 
millions 
of years evolving just so we could learn to eat without resorting to 
osmotic principles! 
Er, can we give this a rest? 
- Tony Clark 

Just for the record you are homosapiens, are you? ;^) 
Cheers Theo 

While your were developing opposable thumbs, I was making music the easy 
way. Just use a large thigh bone and beat on that big black tower the 
flying saucer left. Rocks beat together made a good sound also. 
-Tim Daugard 

...YOU WERE LUCKY! 
And you tell the kids today, they don't believe you... 
Regards, 
Tony 'Mad sir' Allgood 

single celled organisms? you had it easy... 

we used to live, all 100 billion of us, in a little puddle of ooze down 
by the ocean. We didnt even have oxygen in those days... Every day for 
billions of years we'd have to get up at the crack of dawn, go out in 
the ooze and try to assemble ourselves into a self-replicating protein that 
contained the blueprint of life, and every night when we'd come home our 
daddy would whip us and beat us to sleep with a water molecule.... and 
do you think we ever got paid? NO! 

synthesizers... ha! try synthesizing dna. no oxygen and nothing to eat 
and getting zapped by lightening all the time... we had it rough. 
- Christian Oncken 

Man that's nothing, 
The big bang, you should have been there.... 
- Theo 


H^) harry 



----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Pepper <profpep at hotmail.com>
To: synth-diy at dropmix.xs4all.nl
Sent: Tue, 06 Mar 2012 12:57:37 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: [sdiy] Raspberry pi(e)


>Hey leave it out...

>Nowt wrong wi us yorkshiremen...  :p

Nowt at all: we wouldn't have copper wire if it wasn't for them....

(For those not in the UK, I might explain that the invention of copper wire
is sometimes attributed to a dispute between two Yorkshiremen over the
ownership of a penny)

Mike. (safely over the border in Lancashire).

------Original Message------
From: Scott Nordlund
Sender: synth-diy-bounces at dropmix.xs4all.nl
To: synth-diy at dropmix.xs4all.nl
Subject: Re: [sdiy] Raspberry pi(e)
Sent: 6 Mar 2012 17:04


> At least you had chips. The Classic PDP8 and CDC3300 I had in college were
> discrete.
>
Discrete components? You were lucky! (cue a dozen Four Yorkshiremen
references)
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