The op-amp is an easy way and may be the best. You can also generate a small 5V supply (50-100mA) with a charge pump. For TH parts I have used an ADM660 + LP2950 + 2 10uF capacitors. For SMD an Onsemi CAT3200 + 2 10uF + 1uF capacitors. (* jcl *) -- http://www.wiblocks.com