[sdiy] Help with a strange filter
Tom Wiltshire
tom at electricdruid.net
Thu Jun 14 01:03:40 CEST 2012
This is an interesting read on the topic too:
http://www.maxim-ic.com/app-notes/index.mvp/id/738
The gist of it is that for filters with gain=1, the sensitivity is significantly reduced.
T.
On 13 Jun 2012, at 22:04, Tim Stinchcombe wrote:
> Hi Tom,
> It puts in a brief appearance (one page) in a couple of old books I
> have (one is Active & Passive Filter Design, Huelsman, McGraw Hill, 1993),
> which give resistor ratios for equal Cs for a Butterworth response, and then
> proceeds to show how awful its sensitivities are with respect to a mere 5%
> change in gain (you could sim that in LTspice...).
>
> It also briefly appears in here (Fig 3):
>
> http://downloads.hindawi.com/journals/apec/1980/941601.pdf
>
> Ref 3 in that paper almost certainly mentions it too, as I have what may be
> its first outing academically (in a 'reprint' type book):
>
> 'Single amplifier, minimal RC, Butterworth, Thomson, and Chebyshev filters
> to sixth order',
>
> RS Aikens and WJ Kerwin, Proc. Int. Filter Symp., Santa Monica, Cal., Apr
> 1972, pp81-82
>
> - the 'editor's comments' on that paper in the book say that ref 3 above
> comments on the sensitivities of these higher order filters. The paper
> itself gives a handful of recursive equations, and some small tables for
> equal Cs and equal Rs parameter values for orders 3, 4, 5, 6.
>
> If you had access to a citation search engine, you might be able to find a
> more 'meaty' paper which references it.
>
> It also _might_ get a mention in 'The Design of Active Crossovers', by
> Douglas Self - go to Google books:
>
> http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=E01DvO2nsH0C&printsec=frontcover#v=onepag
> e&q&f=false
>
> and in Chp 8, circa p221 and you'll see some very similar structures (some
> pages are not there though, so it could actually be in there...).
>
> I could probably scan the few pages of the paper and the Huelsman book if
> you so wanted!
>
> Tim
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: synth-diy-bounces at dropmix.xs4all.nl
>> [mailto:synth-diy-bounces at dropmix.xs4all.nl] On Behalf Of Tom
>> Wiltshire
>> Sent: 13 June 2012 11:31
>> To: synthdiy diy
>> Subject: [sdiy] Help with a strange filter
>>
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Can anyone tell me more about following filter design?
>>
>> http://www.electricdruid.net/images/Filter.png
>>
>> This is a 4-pole filter that I originally saw in a Maplin ADA
>> Echo project from the 1980's. I've used it a few times since
>> and tweaked the equal resistor values to adjust the cutoff.
>> But I'd like to know more about this filter:
>>
>> Is it any good?
>> If it is, why doesn't everyone use 4-pole filters that only
>> use a single op-amp? Dead handy for antialiasing filters and
>> such like. How would I design a version with different caps?
>> Is this some mutant offspring of the multiple-feedback filter
>> topology? What type of filter is it? (Butterworth, probably,
>> but I'd like to know) Is it genuinely a 4-pole active filter,
>> or (as I suspect) in fact a 2-pole active filter with 2 extra
>> passive poles stuck on it?
>>
>> I came across this design all those years ago (almost
>> thirty!) and I've never, ever seen anything like it since. It
>> doesn't ever appear in textbooks or on webpages about filters.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Tom
>>
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