[sdiy] Switched-mode power supply module in synths... good or bad?
Harry Bissell
harrybissell at wowway.com
Wed Jan 25 22:32:59 CET 2012
I vote with Achim... I've had some negative experiences with the Traco products as well.
A problem is that lower cost switching regulators usually try and skimp on the inductors
to save money, running them at higher flux levels (more near saturation)and this can result
in increased magnetic leakage from the units.
(linear supplies can do this a s well, but you can use toroid transfromers and reduce this to
almost nil...)
The remaining 50 - 100mV of supply ripple is nearly impossible to get rid of, at the high frequencies
it tends to go around anything you pot in its path.
Switching supplies ~can~ definitely be used, but it takes more skill to do so. A lot of folk just
can't be bothered and use the tried-and-true linear supplies
H^) harry
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From: ASSI <Stromeko at nexgo.de>
To: synth-diy at dropmix.xs4all.nl
Sent: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 16:10:41 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: [sdiy] Switched-mode power supply module in synths... good or bad?
On Wednesday 25 January 2012, 21:04:39, Mattias Rickardsson wrote:
> It would then probably be a +/-15 V supply, regulated down to +/-12 V
> with the linear regulators on the Living Vocoder pcb in order to get
> rid of the switch ripple. I expect the ripple (on the order of 100 mV)
> would be way too strong to use directly.
These TRACOs are pretty noisy IIRC, so you might want to look further.
Check the datasheet for ripple specification and get a PSU that has low
ripple to start with (they usually have different circuit topology and are
more expensive, though). Fixed frequency switching is a definite plus and
higher switching frequencies make the filter components smaller (that may
come at the expense of more radiated emissions). A linear regulator will
_not_ be effective to attenuate the ripple in the 100kHZ+ region you have to
expect, you should use a passive low-pass for that, maybe in combination
with a voltage follower output or shunt transistor. You need a very good
voltage reference for these and again passive filters to take care of any
noise above audio. Again some PSU have those filters and transistors
already included and unless you have at least a good scope they'll do much
better than you can achieve yourself — in fact often better than typical
linear regulators with noisy references. Unless the Vocoder produces
pronounced load transients, just use a 12V PSU directly. Some further
reading:
http://cds.linear.com/docs/Application%20Note/an70.pdf
http://cds.linear.com/docs/Application%20Note/an75f.pdf
http://cds.linear.com/docs/Application%20Note/an83f.pdf
Regards,
Achim.
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