[sdiy] MOOG 901D schematic?
Terry
daytona at verizon.net
Fri Aug 24 10:40:23 CEST 2012
> Does anyone anything about it or know where to find a schematic for
> this module?
>
About two weeks late, but always willing to discuss old Moog modules!
I think the schematic of the 901-C may give a clue as to what might have
been used in the 901-D.
Looking at an early Moog catalog, the descriptions of the 901-C OUTPUT
STAGE and 901-D VARIABLE WAVEFORM OUTPUT STAGE are nearly the same, with
the 901-D being the super deluxe variable model with a few more functions.
Both modules quote "In conjunction with the 901-B oscillator, this
instrument produces two outputs of equal magnitude but opposite sign."
Then goes on to read "Outputs are used as control voltages". So it would
seem the intended or designed use was for it's CV modulation output. The
901-D goes further with "All of the 901-B waveforms are available and may
be mixed in any proportion. In addition, variable clipping is provided to
shape the triangular wave." (Note: this reads "triangular" wave,and may
reference the shape of the newly formed wave, and not neccesseraly the
"Triangle" wave.)
Here is the 901-C schematic:
http://tinyurl.com/944erwf
A photo of the left side:
http://tinyurl.com/9jw7ek4
And photo of the right side:
http://tinyurl.com/9kkta5c
Looking at the smaller version 901-C. The 901-C is a 1U module with a
3-ganged, 6-positon rotary on top with the first three selections -- Sine,
Sawtooth, Triangular. Then in a boxed section labled Pulse, with the last
three selections -- Center, Positive and Negative. Below the rotary
selector, a potentiometer for the Amplitude of the selected waveform, and
at the bottom two jacks labled Complementry Outputs (+/-). Looking at the
schematic, the four waveforms from the 901, after being selected via the
rotary switch, goes to what is an almost identical circuit as the CP3
mixer. So looks to be boosting/doubling the 1.2 volt P-P 901 signal and
giving both a positive and negative output .
The later CP3 module has the effect of doubling a single input, where
unity gain is around 7 on the mixer dial with the master gain at 10. And a
mixer input setting at 10 would double the incomming signal. Here is the
CP-3 schematic to see the similaraties:
http://tinyurl.com/9v7fknw
In use the simultaneous inverted outputs of a sine or triangle wave
could be patched into two seperate VCAs for stereo panning, or the now
available reverse sawtooth for a modulation source. But the circuitry in
the Pulse section is the interesting part and would seem to include both a
positive and negative wave clipper. Just two simple transistor +/-
clippers that are mirrored on both output sections A and B.
My guess as to why these special pulse settings are needed, is if you
were to modulate your 901 oscillator(s) with a pulse output from another
901, the waveform is non-symetrical and will go in both positive and
negative directions. So the classic modulation trill sound will be
difficult to tune as a musical interval since as the modulation amount
increases, both sides go out of tune. This modulation effect on say, the
later designed Minimoog, is easy to tune as you hold a C you push the mod
wheel till you get to the interval you want, because the pulse only goes
positive leaving the base note C in tune. Not so with the 901 and would
require constant retuning to get a C to F trill, and every time you
change the interval would need retuning of the oscillator. So I would
imagine this would be the reason there is a Center being that standard
output. And the Positive and Negative setting, clipping the other half, to
aid in tuning as a modulation source. Remember this was the 60's when
these were designed and needed. Plus there was the added boost for the 901
to modulate another signal with more than the stock 0.6 volt swing. The
901-C module does have the 4 countersunk screws on the panel, indicating
there is a C frame behind the panel along with a larger circuit board.
(Some of the simpler, smaller circuits had an L bracket that mounted
through a 1/4" jack to hold the tiny circuit board. Such as the CP-3
mixer, reversable attenuator.)
Seeing that Moog went through the trouble of giving me a Pulse wave with
either the positive or negative side of the waveform on the "fixed" output
stage 901-C. I would venture a guess that that would be the function of
the super deluxe version of the "variable" output stage 901-D. I'm just
speculating here. But if the function was a pot that would blend from
positive clipped to center to negative clipped waveform, for each of the
four waveforms, with variable amplitude for each. That would be a somewhat
interesting module, both as a modulation source or an audio source.
Here is a somewhat blurry photo of the 901-D.
http://tinyurl.com/8hn2o3s
Tough to make out exactly what is labeled on that panel, but my eyes went
10 years ago, so I have a good bit of practice reading blurry lettering.
Looks like across the top "901-D Variable Waveform Output Stage". Below
are four knobs each with three lines of text, with the first two lines the
same on all four. Looks like "Variable Clipper Sine". Then Variable
Clipper Sawtooth, Pulse, and Triangle. Suprisingly none of the knobs on
these have any calibration marks, that would aid in guessing the function
range. Below that, in the middle reads "Input Mixer" with four more
un-calibrated knobs labled "1, 2, 3, and 4". Further down in the middle
left reads "Inputs" with four jacks below labled 1,2,3,4. To the right of
that, a knob that reads "Master Gain". To the far right reads "Outputs"
with two jacks below with what looks to be labled with arrows , one up
and one down.
So, the bottom half of that 901-D closely resembles the later introduced
CP-3 mixer with four inputs, four attenuators, a master gain with positive
and negative outputs. The only thing missing in the 901-C schematic would
be the four attenuators and resistors like in the CP-3. My guess would be
the four variable clipped waveform outputs are normalized to the four
switching jacks below. Giving the added option to override and introduce a
CV from another 901 or envelope generator for more complex/interesting
waveforms on any one of the four mixer inputs.
The question though would be where the clipping circuits are
implemented?. On the 901-C the pulse is clipped after it is amplified. But
I doubt that on the 901-D there would be four seperate amp circuits before
the clippers, then another mixer amp circuit. So might be clipped directly
from the 901 individual waveform outputs, then mixed amplified. Probably
the same or similar transistor clipper circuit on the 901-C times four,
one to each waveform. Not sure if there would be a special circuit to mix
together the positive/negative portions of the clipped wave. Could be as
simple as the Minimoog modulation mix knob, where the noise and osc 3 are
on each end of a pot , with the output taken from the wiper? Any guesses
from the "Synth Gurus", if that would yeild a non-distorted
sine/triangle/saw at the half-way point? I could just breadboard my ideas
to find out. And I'll bet those early 901-D's are on breadboards too.
Anyhow, if my guesses are right, most of the 901-D circuit is lifted from
the 901C, and would be a blueprint to try to make one. This could be an
interesting module if you were able dial in the lower half of a sine wave
with the upper half a saw with variable amplitude. Since the four 901
waves are locked together, might be fun to assemble an odd "Triangular"
modulation waveform that way. Or add in some other mod sources like a
rising envelope into the mixer or a faster moving sine from another 901.
The module was probably seen as obsolete in the later modulars. With the
1968 model I, II, III there were several of the newly introduced CP-3
mixers on all of them. Those many mixers were absent on the early systems.
And the CP-3 could do most of the waveform mixing/inverting for more
complex modulations. The only thing missing is the clipper. But the CP-3
was more of a modular approach and could be configured many different ways
from audio mixing to boosting/amplifing, to modulation mixing.
Here is a photo of Bob with his hand just below one of the 8 or so made
901-D modules. That early modular really did not have any extra mixers,
for modulation mixing. So in an old circa 1967 system like that, the 901-D
would be very usefull. By the time the 1970 Moog modular price list was
issued, both the 901-C and 901-D had been dropped.
Bob and 901-D:
http://tinyurl.com/8fdn9kh
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