[sdiy] (OT?) FEEDBACK as a topic in electronics, music, science, etc?? BOOKS?

Dave Manley dlmanley at sonic.net
Thu Sep 8 02:31:55 CEST 2011


Here's something from the 'anything' category:

http://theinterpretersfriend.org/misc/humr/fdbk.gif

-Dave

P.S. Isn't this in TAOE?


 On Wed 11/09/07  2:48 PM , "dan snazelle" subjectivity at hotmail.com sent:
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> On Sep 7, 2011, at 5:39 PM, Brock Russell wrote:
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> > "Anything" on feedback is a pretty big
> knowledge space.> 
> > The most succinct explanation of feedback theory
> relating to electronics that I have read is "Feedback and Stability
> Theory" from "Op Amps For Everyone". The single chapter is
> here, http://www.tij.co.jp/jp/lit/ml/sloa077/sloa077.pdf.
> The fundamentals are covered in an understandable manner in just seven
> pages.> 
> > Have you read Walt Jung's "IC Op-Amp
> Cookbook"? A  better,  perhaps redundant title might be,
> "Feedback Applications For Op-Amps". Walt rips through the theory
> pretty fast but he touches upon everything you need to consider for
> practical circuit designs and the entire book is really about feedback. Get
> an early printing of the third edition, the first printing from 1986 is
> probably best. Even Walt says not to buy the most recent edition as the
> print quality is crap.> 
> > To "learn and make connections", I
> would recommend first, Bob Widlar's app notes, almost all the big ideas in
> linear IC design started with Bob. Other than National AN-4 most of the
> early ones are hard to find. Second  would be Jim Williams. Read his app
> notes and build his circuits. You have to be an exceptional designer not to
> learn from his designs.  http://www.linear.com/doclist/?dt=2&au=Jim+Williams and http://web.mit.edu/klund/www/jw/jw-nsc.html> 
> > To try  to cover the "anything" space,
> the feedback idea book would be Douglas Hofstadter's "I Am a Strange
> Loop", possibly the most disjointed, flawed, and ultimately
> unsatisfying read on feedback loops that I have encountered but it's a best
> seller from a brilliant guy so make of it what you will.> 
> > More?
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> > Brock
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> More?
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> Brock
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> YES thanks....these are great starting points..although I am NOT really
> only looking to electronics...thats why I said OT as I am really looking
> for feedback as related to sound, art, synthesizer patches etcI actually looked through Godel Escher Bach the other day (a book by him I
> love) and looked up feedback in the index...it was a short entry...not too
> helpful
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> ANYWAY
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> this all got started when i read a chapter in CURTIS ROAD's "The
> computer music tutorial" 
> And i thought..."WOW I never thought of all these different ways of
> connecting things....THERE MUST BE A BUNCH MORE BOOKS THAT HAVE IDEAS ON
> HOOKING UP THINGS IN WEIRD WAYS!"
> A quick search on AMAZON however brought up mainly Feedback as related to
> Management and Interpersonal stuff.....
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> So I turned to the SDIY list as I know how many interesting people are on
> this thing....
> So far I have gotten some good ideas from peoples responses....
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> But MORE? sure
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> always
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> ;)
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> thanks to everyone
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> > At 04:27 AM 07/09/2011, you wrote:
> >> Maybe this is off-topic, but I am looking
> for ANY book recommendations (or websites) on  the topic of
> FEEDBACK>> ( could be anything from video feedback to
> neural networks to guitar feedback to servos to a book on FM 
> oscillators)>> 
> >> COULD BE an IDEA book or a technical
> book>> 
> >> just trying to LEARN and make some new
> connections between ideas>> 
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> >> thanks!!!!
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