[sdiy] (OT?) FEEDBACK as a topic in electronics, music, science, etc?? BOOKS?

[dan snazelle]

On Sep 7, 2011, at 5:39 PM, Brock Russell wrote:

> "Anything" on feedback is a pretty big knowledge space.
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> The most succinct explanation of feedback theory relating to electronics that I have read is "Feedback and Stability Theory" from "Op Amps For Everyone". The single chapter is here, http://www.tij.co.jp/jp/lit/ml/sloa077/sloa077.pdf. The fundamentals are covered in an understandable manner in just seven pages.
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> Have you read Walt Jung's "IC Op-Amp Cookbook"? A  better,  perhaps redundant title might be, "Feedback Applications For Op-Amps". Walt rips through the theory pretty fast but he touches upon everything you need to consider for practical circuit designs and the entire book is really about feedback. Get an early printing of the third edition, the first printing from 1986 is probably best. Even Walt says not to buy the most recent edition as the print quality is crap.
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> To "learn and make connections", I would recommend first, Bob Widlar's app notes, almost all the big ideas in linear IC design started with Bob. Other than National AN-4 most of the early ones are hard to find. Second  would be Jim Williams. Read his app notes and build his circuits. You have to be an exceptional designer not to learn from his designs.  http://www.linear.com/doclist/?dt=2&au=Jim+Williams and http://web.mit.edu/klund/www/jw/jw-nsc.html
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> To try  to cover the "anything" space, the feedback idea book would be Douglas Hofstadter's "I Am a Strange Loop", possibly the most disjointed, flawed, and ultimately unsatisfying read on feedback loops that I have encountered but it's a best seller from a brilliant guy so make of it what you will.
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> More?
> 
> Brock
> 



More?

Brock


YES thanks....these are great starting points..although I am NOT really only looking to electronics...thats why I said OT as I am really looking for feedback as related to sound, art, synthesizer patches etc
I actually looked through Godel Escher Bach the other day (a book by him I love) and looked up feedback in the index...it was a short entry...not too helpful


ANYWAY


this all got started when i read a chapter in CURTIS ROAD's "The computer music tutorial" 

And i thought..."WOW I never thought of all these different ways of connecting things....THERE MUST BE A BUNCH MORE BOOKS THAT HAVE IDEAS ON HOOKING UP THINGS IN WEIRD WAYS!"

A quick search on AMAZON however brought up mainly Feedback as related to Management and Interpersonal stuff.....


So I turned to the SDIY list as I know how many interesting people are on this thing....

So far I have gotten some good ideas from peoples responses....

But MORE? sure


always

;)

thanks to everyone





> At 04:27 AM 07/09/2011, you wrote:
>> Maybe this is off-topic, but I am looking for ANY book recommendations (or websites) on  the topic of FEEDBACK
>> ( could be anything from video feedback to neural networks to guitar feedback to servos to a book on FM  oscillators)
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>> COULD BE an IDEA book or a technical book
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>> just trying to LEARN and make some new connections between ideas
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>> thanks!!!!
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