[sdiy] PCB/Schematic software
Tristan
tu at alphalink.com.au
Thu Sep 1 02:04:06 CEST 2011
About a year ago I looked into this issue and in the end also went with Eagle Professional Layout +
Schematic. I wanted similar functionality to the old Protel Schematic + PCB I had used in the past and the
cross platform Win/Mac/Linux compatibility of Eagle was a bonus. Two other important considerations were
that Eagle is widely accepted by board houses and the company has been in business a long time with a
solid support presence.
In use I have found Eagle to be reliable and I have not struck any major bugs or instability. On the
negative side, I found it has a fair learning curve (but I guess most CAD tools do!) and some operations
are not very intuitive. The supplied libraries are also a bit messy and inconsistent.
/Tristan
On Thu, Sep 1st, 2011 at 6:42 AM, Matthew Smith <matt at smiffytech.com> wrote:
> Quoth Harry Bissell at 01/09/11 04:29...
> ...
> > What does anyone like these days ?
>
> When this was discussed last - which I think is when Neil drew up that
> list - I did a quick re-evaluation. My first criterion was that the
> package had to run on Linux, as I'm an all-Linux shop, here.
>
> I had been using Eagle for quite some time and had upgraded from the
> freeware to the not-for-profit paid version, in order to get a bit more
> board space to work with. But that license was strictly non-commercial.
> I needed something where there would be no license restrictions
> regarding selling stuff created with the package.
>
> My third key requirement was that everything would go through schematic
> capture - there is no way in the world that I would consider laying out
> a boar directly.
>
> At the time, I was looking for Spice integration, but I still haven't
> gotten round to using that - I'd far rather build something and test it
> than sit staring at a computer screen (which I do all day anyway)
> fiddling with simulations.
>
> My shortlist came down to Eagle Pro, Kicad and GeDA/PCB.
>
> After a quick look at Kicad, I decided that it simply wasn't for me -
> didn't suit the way I work/think.
>
> Next off the block was GeDA/PCB. Whilst I wasn't impressed by the
> integration of the tools, I realised the sheer power of it and knew I
> could script a lot of tasks. The two real issues it presented were 1)
> learning curve and 2) no reliable way to turn my rather large Eagle
> components library into the GeDA/PCB format.
>
> I thought about this for a few months and finally worked out that
> forking out a grand for Eagle Pro would actually be cheaper, when
> considered in a commercial context, than having to learn a totally new
> package and then convert a lot of previous work over to the new format.
> As I'm not *that* happy with parting with my money - even when the
> "me" is "my business," I got onto my distributor - Element14 - and,
> after some negotiation, secured what I thought was a pretty good discount.
>
> So, now I am running Eagle Pro (schematic capture and board layout only
> - no auto-router) and am happy with that. The effort of changing was
> simply a case of adding a new license file - no learning, no conversions.
>
> As regards Spice integration, I believe there may be a ULP (User
> Language Programme) or two that will export netlists in a form that can
> be read by/imported into Spice software. But I haven't tried to do it.
>
> Cheers
>
> M
>
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