[sdiy] Freescale announces a new ARM Product based upon Cortex A5 and Cortex M4

[KD KD]

2011/11/1, Bruce Duncan <modcan at sympatico.ca>:
> You may be right that learning Linux is time well spent.
> I have tried the Windows versions of Keil and Attolic software and I
> agree they are horrible to use  especially considering what they cost.

Keil are are regarded among STM32 users as the one to prefer among the beasts.

Recently i managed to get Atolic work, it took a tremendous amount of
pain to get it work
all kind of driver collisions appeared, newer ever install any newer
ST link driver if you want
the dessert island crap work.

I have Unbuntu on disc here, im tempted to use it but i "demand" a
click and run IDE.
Not 5 days of intellectual wrestling with Linux makes and builds.

> It's too bad there is not an equivalent to Microchips MPLAB and C32  compiler in
>the ARM world.  A windows based environment that is both simple to use, inexpensive
>to  buy and includes optimized libraries as standard.
Amen!

> ARM data sheets are very hard going and there are very few examples in
> code to draw from.

And STM 32 data sheets are way easier to interpret then any dsPIC.

> The ARM forums are mostly unusable.

The ST people fucked up their forum from very workable to public
cryout some time ago.
There used to be a Yahoo SAM7 forum that was very usable as long as
you didn't mention
you wanted to program ARM in assembler, no idea if it still exist.

> It feels like the the whole ARM ecosystem is setup to be as difficult as possible
>to penetrate.
I would be happy with very simple IDE like Notepad++ and ONE decent
simple template
and a non limited compiler to start with. The less time spent on IDE's
, makes, builds,
scripts and everything that deals with the toolsets are welcome by any
means. I hate
the menue mud eclipse provides.

> Having so many vendors of the ARM technology has created a system were
> there is no incentive  to support the devices by the chip makers beyond the
> very basics.

>They  rely on the software companies to do it and again with so many software makers
>it is difficult for them to  justify the cost of adequate support.

It's all about who the target customers are. You are not an elephant big enough.

I just read some market papers about ARM, comments from several big
elephants had
complaints ARM had started getting arrogant because of the market
share they posses.

>This is why Microchip can do it so well. They have a monopoly on the Mips technology
>in their sector.  If they could make a PIC32 with all the peripherals that ARM are now
> starting to offer they would easily eclipse ARM  in areas of development and support.

ARM will end Mips, everyone are doing ARM now.

KD