[sdiy] MIDI Sys Ex ID $$$?

[Paul Maddox]

Karl,

 As far as I know the ID is only used for Sysex Dumps.
As most modern micro's support self programming, MIDI sysex dumps are
a good way of getting updated OS out to your users.

Paul

On 1 May 2011 17:12, Karl Ekdahl <elektrodwarf at yahoo.se> wrote:
> So does this only pertain to sysex? Are there any other licensing requirements to incorporate MIDI in a commercial product? Couldn't really find any info pointing at that but i thought i'd ask...
>
> Karl
>
> --- Den tors 2011-04-28 skrev ChristianH <chris at chrismusic.de>:
>
>> Från: ChristianH <chris at chrismusic.de>
>> Ämne: Re: [sdiy] MIDI Sys Ex ID $$$?
>> Till: synth-diy at dropmix.xs4all.nl
>> Datum: torsdag 28 april 2011 10:59
>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 16:50:02 -0700
>> "Speth, John" <John.Speth at coherent.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > > > In my case, I just picked 7F out of my rear,
>> but I don't or haven't sold anything yet.
>> >
>> > > Well, 7F is for Real Time Universal System
>> Exclusive Messages, so you
>> > > might have problems with anyone using MIDI Time
>> Code, Show Control, etc.
>> >
>> > I don't think that your choice of 7F was random.
>> I think I recall that 7F was reserved for
>> unassigned/hobby/whatever use before the MMA started to cram
>> in more functionality than what MIDI was intended for.
>> >
>> > I too picked 7F with my MIDI designs but I don't sell
>> too.
>> >
>> > My 2 cents: I love the idea where the user can pick
>> the ID.  That would eliminate some compatibility
>> problems for users that have problems.
>>
>> If he is smart enough to do so. And - if he is smart enough
>> to see that
>> his problems are due to an ID collision. I guess even quite
>> a number of
>> programmers might spend some time to find out, but I
>> wouldn't expect
>> that from some musician who just wants to make some music.
>>
>> Maybe a more usable way is to "loan" an ID from a company
>> that has gone
>> down years ago. But then, even the Sequential ID lives on
>> (Dave Smith
>> still/again uses it).
>>
>> Another possibility is to use the Roland scheme. Even
>> though they have
>> something like family and model IDs, they have a pretty
>> generic dump
>> protocol. It's just block move operations without
>> predefined meaning,
>> using a virtual device space. Each model is described by
>> its own address
>> mapping for patches, performances, system setup etc. That
>> could be
>> applied to about any synth.
>>
>> BTW, paying for a sysex ID isn't particularly new, as the
>> original
>> poster seems to suggest. IIRC, it has always been that
>> way.
>> In fact, I'm surprised it's only $200. I thought I had seen
>> something
>> more prohibitive before. Might be that it also requires
>> some nonsense
>> like mandatory MMA membership or whatever, don't remember.
>>
>> Christian
>>
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