[sdiy] SSM2164 last time buys

[Dennis Verschoor]

I think they are about 100 euro.

On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Paul Maddox
<paul.Maddox.mail-list at synth.net> wrote:
> Thanks, Had a listen to some demos on youtube (oddly there's none of
> their own website), sounds quite nice. Would like to know pricing and
> availability.
>
> Paul
>
>
> On 25 February 2011 13:15, Dennis Verschoor <modular at gmail.com> wrote:
>> It's an improved version of what is the vcf2 in the ebbe und flut.
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 1:52 PM, Paul Maddox
>> <paul.Maddox.mail-list at synth.net> wrote:
>>> Nice,
>>>
>>>  I like it, would like to "hear" it though.
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>> On 25 February 2011 12:32, Olivier Gillet <ol.gillet at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> In the "potted module" category, has anyone seen this?
>>>> http://www.schippmann-music.com/downloads/VCF2_Datasheet_ENG.pdf
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 1:23 PM, Paul Maddox
>>>> <paul.Maddox.mail-list at synth.net> wrote:
>>>>> David,
>>>>>
>>>>>  he has indeed, and I have one that I'm working with for a personal
>>>>> project, however, they're not SMD, they're more like 0.6" wide body 16
>>>>> Pin chip sized devices. I couldn't use them for a kit/commercial
>>>>> product.
>>>>>
>>>>> Paul
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 25 February 2011 07:58, David <dingebre at 3dphysics.net> wrote:
>>>>>> George Hearn has done this already. He built a 2040 clone, VCO, ADSR, and a
>>>>>> VCA already in very small and useable potted packages with surface mount
>>>>>> chips.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://sites.google.com/site/hearnmorley/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> David
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> -- From: synth-diy-bounces at dropmix.xs4all.nl [mailto:synth-diy-
>>>>>> -- bounces at dropmix.xs4all.nl] On Behalf Of Joe Grisso
>>>>>> -- Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 12:23 AM
>>>>>> -- To: Paul Maddox
>>>>>> -- Cc: SynthDIY
>>>>>> -- Subject: Re: [sdiy] SSM2164 last time buys
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> -- Well, I know it's a sin to mention this in the SDIY forum (heheh), but
>>>>>> -- I think a SMT discrete VCA could fit into a very tiny space. However,
>>>>>> -- I don't know whether or not a good quality quad discrete VCA could fit
>>>>>> -- into the space that a DIP16 would allow. A simple gilbert multiplier
>>>>>> -- definitely would, but that's quite simple.
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> -- Best,
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> -- Joe
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> -- On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 12:18 AM, Paul Maddox
>>>>>> -- <paul.Maddox.mail-list at synth.net> wrote:
>>>>>> -- > The problem is, how much PCB space does his VCA take?
>>>>>> -- > I suspect that using the SSM2164 will give me 4 VCAs in less space
>>>>>> -- > than one discrete one. Plus the matching between them will be a lot
>>>>>> -- > tighter.
>>>>>> -- >
>>>>>> -- > I full appreciate the reason for discrete parts, but in products that
>>>>>> -- > you want to make small, or to keep costs down (Complexity/ease of
>>>>>> -- > setup/PCB size/parts) there's a trade off to be had.
>>>>>> -- >
>>>>>> -- > Paul
>>>>>> -- >
>>>>>> -- > On 25 February 2011 06:55, David <dingebre at 3dphysics.net> wrote:
>>>>>> -- >> It's interesting. In my interaction with Nyle in my Synthasystem
>>>>>> project, I
>>>>>> -- >> asked Nyle why his circuits were essentially all discrete except for a
>>>>>> few
>>>>>> -- >> op amps. His comment was he didn't want to be locked into a specialty
>>>>>> chip.
>>>>>> -- >> He wanted to be able to build his circuits 30 years down the road and
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> -- >> worry about a chip being obsolete. Here I am 35 years later and
>>>>>> building his
>>>>>> -- >> designs with no problem.
>>>>>> -- >>
>>>>>> -- >> The one exception is the MC1495 multiplier in his Ring Modulator.
>>>>>> Although
>>>>>> -- >> Arcade Game Chips has a stock of 30,000, or so he tells me :)
>>>>>> -- >>
>>>>>> -- >> David
>>>>>> -- >>
>>>>>> -- >> -- -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> -- >> -- From: synth-diy-bounces at dropmix.xs4all.nl [mailto:synth-diy-
>>>>>> -- >> -- bounces at dropmix.xs4all.nl] On Behalf Of megaohm
>>>>>> -- >> -- Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 11:13 PM
>>>>>> -- >> -- To: Tom Wiltshire
>>>>>> -- >> -- Cc: synthdiy diy
>>>>>> -- >> -- Subject: Re: [sdiy] SSM2164 last time buys
>>>>>> -- >> --
>>>>>> -- >> -- On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 9:04 AM, Tom Wiltshire
>>>>>> <TOM at electricdruid.net>
>>>>>> -- >> wrote:
>>>>>> -- >> -- >
>>>>>> -- >> -- > Analog Devices have listed SSM2164 as "Still In Production but
>>>>>> Not
>>>>>> -- >> Recommended for
>>>>>> -- >> -- New Designs", and have "last time buy" by the available product
>>>>>> models
>>>>>> -- >> (leaded devices
>>>>>> -- >> -- became obsolete some while ago).
>>>>>> -- >> -- >
>>>>>> -- >> --
>>>>>> -- >> -- That sucks. I was going to start experimenting with that IC more
>>>>>> -- >> seriously.
>>>>>> -- >> -- I hadn't before because I assumed it would be obsolete soon. I
>>>>>> didn't
>>>>>> -- >> -- think it would be this soon!!!
>>>>>> -- >> --
>>>>>> -- >> -- At least there is the 13700 still. With the right circuit I
>>>>>> actually
>>>>>> -- >> -- prefer these over any specialty IC for VCA circuits.
>>>>>> -- >> -- But...it's just a matter of time before these are gone, too.
>>>>>> -- >> -- Time to go discrete.
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>>>>>> -- Joe Grisso
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