[sdiy] the list, the new machine, etc

[rick]

The archive works again, sorry for messages lost.

I have mailed back Graham Atkins, but I think he does not receive direct
mail from me either, nor do I get it back, so I suspect a spam filter.

rick


On 22/3/10 14:21, Ben Lincoln wrote:
> FWIW, I'm getting the messages in the correct order and without any more 
> delay than prior to the change.
> 
> I know that Graham Atkins checked with his ISP and they claimed this 
> wasn't the case, but a lot of the behaviour sounds like what I'd expect 
> from a misbehaving spam filter. E.g. in the case of not seeing your own 
> messages until someone else has replied, I could see a filter assuming 
> that if a message came from a return address purporting to be its own 
> domain, but sent through a mail system on another domain, then it must 
> be spam due to the forged From: address.
> 
> In the case of messages coming in out of order, could that not be due to 
> something like "greylisting", where the recipient's mail server refuses 
> the first n connection attempts by untrusted sending systems? When the 
> connection attempt was finally allowed, I could see the sending system 
> pushing through the newest messages, then checking its queue to see if 
> anything else was pending and then sending that too.
> 
> A *lot* of the larger email providers (Google, etc.) seem to have 
> stepped up their filtering of mail from small(er) domains as well. If I 
> send an email to friends with GMail accounts and it includes a link, 
> there's a reasonable chance it will end up in their spam bins.
> 
> Anyway, just a guess - but since I make sure there is no ISP-side filter 
> in front of this account *and* I get the messages correctly, that's 
> where I'd put my money.
> 
> - Ben
> 
> cheater cheater wrote:
>> Nicolas,
>> Thanks, this is very important indeed. Let's see if Rick can come up
>> with something.
>>
>> I haven't noticed the message delay you mention, but of course that
>> doesn't mean it does not exist. Do you only notice this with reply
>> messages, or does this happen with first-posts as well? Maybe the
>> difference in arrival time comes from people clicking 'reply all' and
>> sending the reply to the list AS WELL as to you directly.
>>
>> On a related note, if I send something to the list it doesn't show up
>> in my inbox until when someone else has replied to the thread (I even
>> replied to my first-posts sometimes and it didn't make it come back to
>> me). It was like that before the move though; but maybe it could be
>> changed? It's a bit troublesome to trawl through the outbox for
>> reference to something I've sent to this list.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> D.
>>
>>   
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