[sdiy] the list, the new machine, etc

[Magnus Danielson]

Ben Lincoln wrote:
> FWIW, I'm getting the messages in the correct order and without any 
> more delay than prior to the change.
>
> I know that Graham Atkins checked with his ISP and they claimed this 
> wasn't the case, but a lot of the behaviour sounds like what I'd 
> expect from a misbehaving spam filter. E.g. in the case of not seeing 
> your own messages until someone else has replied, I could see a filter 
> assuming that if a message came from a return address purporting to be 
> its own domain, but sent through a mail system on another domain, then 
> it must be spam due to the forged From: address.
>
> In the case of messages coming in out of order, could that not be due 
> to something like "greylisting", where the recipient's mail server 
> refuses the first n connection attempts by untrusted sending systems? 
> When the connection attempt was finally allowed, I could see the 
> sending system pushing through the newest messages, then checking its 
> queue to see if anything else was pending and then sending that too.
Not if the grey-listing is behaving properly.

The one thing that one can do to analyze the situation is to check the 
headers, where you can see the time-stamps as the mail has jumped 
between the servers. That could be a good lead on where the problem is.
> A *lot* of the larger email providers (Google, etc.) seem to have 
> stepped up their filtering of mail from small(er) domains as well. If 
> I send an email to friends with GMail accounts and it includes a link, 
> there's a reasonable chance it will end up in their spam bins.
SPAM-filtering is a war. There will be some casualties.
> Anyway, just a guess - but since I make sure there is no ISP-side 
> filter in front of this account *and* I get the messages correctly, 
> that's where I'd put my money. 
I put both grey-listing and spam-filtering in front of my email, and it 
seems to work well enough. With increased levels of paranoia oddities is 
know to occur from time to time.

Cheers,
Magnus